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I basically run seminar discussions for a living and we sometimes map the conversation to see connections and diagnose problems. So I made a flow chart to examine the Thread-tastrophe that happened here this evening. I'm not innocent, I admit that eaf. This chart has the advantage of representing 90% of ski-forum "help me choose a ski" discussions, so I feel that it could be a real time-saver in the future. Near as I can figure, it all went wrong when someone mentioned skis.

Here comes the gift card refund....

i used my beer coozy sunday to keep my hands warm

Couple if inches, huh?

Yeah, the 11 people on this site will shut it down

Day 3: redux of day one, just colder, poorer viz and more wind (summit quad getting intermittent wind holds). Agree with comment on not a lot of trees, maybe 4 mapped glades????? Anyhoo, this trip has been a real gem. Finishing up lunch and back out. Insider tip: park at children’s lodge to avoid long parking lot walks. Can park next to lodge (no one goes there except locals) and lodge is always empty

An awful lot of women's skis are the exact same as the men's model but with a different topsheet (Kendo/Kenja, e.g.). Or they'll be the same but with less metal and/or a range of shorter sizes which may work for all kinds of skiers. Basically, aside from the menopausal graphics, most "women's" skis are just for smaller, lighter skiers. Some do have more forward mount points, though, and I think some Blizzards have sidecut specifically designed around the more-forward mount point. I have men's skis and men's boots because of my height, weight, and circus-clown sized feet. Fine by me--I hate pink shit anyway and definitely don't want white, fur-lined boots on account of I don't live in a f***ing Bond movie.

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If you ski the mtn like a normal person most days are decent conditions. If you just bomb every run and try to lay down tracks it needs to be a certain range of goodness. Every time I slow down and actually enjoy the trails its great no matter what snow.

Little breezy ....few people there... a power outage...and a Long Trail draft

11? When did we hit double digits?

It's been snowing all day in the Deep South Vermont..... Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

nice TR....we're heading up there at the end of this month. haven't been there in quite a few years, so we're looking forward to getting back to WF.

Closed, I’m staying up!

Widow Maker is going to blow in tonight, it will be dick deep titty sparkles tomorrow for opening.

Really good conditions today. Maybe 2" but hard to tell with all of the wind. Some trails were protected but most were not. Regardless, it blended in nicely with the groomed trails. The wind was some of the worst that I have seen there. I passed Ryan on the way up and he just sent me a text saying that the 6er was stopped on wind-hold. I'm not surprised since it is so damn windy, which is likely why they will be closing early. I was able to stop on Razors top headwall with my skis pointed down and not move an inch because of how strong the wind was. Other than that, 3 hours of great groomers.

I sometimes do that and ask if anyone wants to play "bar-chicken" going into the terminal just to see the look of horror on their faces. Good times.

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Whiteface can be really good but most times I've been there it's lived up to it's moniker, "Iceface" in one way or another. I like Gore better than Whiteface. Gore when it is 100% has a lot of diversity and pods to get away from the crowds and out of the wind if it's windy. It also has more trees if you're into that.

Please stay on topic everybody. The topic is fuckery.

Yup. PASR is not a place for seriousness. Not saying you can't get solid advice advice on gear or advice on a specific mountain. You certainly can. Just expect a little fuckery sprinkled in.

Oh God, that chart is epic! It's absolutely worth hanging it on a wall. And that's like the signature of this particular forum. People call CB a circus, but look at what we have on these 6 pages so far! Thanks @SallyCat!

Day 2: 5” from yesterday plus ultra light product from guns made for one of our best days at WF. Lower empire was open which was a first for us. Classic New England trail. Gives us access to cloud splitter glades also. Did that as opening run then shot over to summit quad because upper skyward looked amazing. And it was. Usually the first 200 yards is a sketch slide but the whole trail top to bottom were creamy turns. We lapped skyward about 6 x before heading back to wilderness pod. Also a fun seeded bump line at bottom which made the top to bottom worthwhile. Taking a break now. Boys still out there. My legs are feeling it but I may have a few more left in me. Snow tomorrow! 15 F with little wind so really not bad at all Parking lot view: Upper empire: Upper skyward: View of WF from little WF: Bump line at bottom: Upper niagara ((skiers right was $):

The last few days at Elk have been fabulous. Great packed powder with an inch or three a couple of mornings. Super cold, high today on mtn 14°. We've been waiting until noon to head over, just to see a warm up to 6° or more. Holiday week was pretty busy, the mtn made $$. No lift lines to speak of anytime, today was the busiest day in a while (college wild Wednesday started) $25 lift tickets. Wind has ranged from 0-5-25 mph depending on day. 10 trails from top of mtn are open. 5 more trails plus Lehigh the natural snow only trail until 100% open. They haven't blown snow for the last three days and are required to shut down snowmaking by the Susquehanna something-or-other watershed commission (?) because the county is in a "drought"..... Real nice at Elk right now..... Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Made it to the mountain in 4 1/2 hrs (love Waze). Mountain picked up ~2” today which was a unexpected surprise. 15F but under summit little wind so not so bad. Visibility off of summit was sketch though. Generally all trails Skied awesome. Lapped off top (3.5 blue mountains). Still pumping guns on upper skyward. ROTD was upper wilderness (pic) as it was getting a 21 gun salute and with natural was man/nature pow day. Floaty turns, first of season! Lookout was closed, oh well. Picking up pizza, a ubu ale or three and it’s lights out for me. I’m old [emoji41]

Wow be careful man Sasquatch is a really hard trail. Ask ski patrol about conditions next time before you "drop in" as the pros say it.

Sounds like a plan!

I can work remotely, so kinda yes, kinda no.

Geez, I just drove around the corner and took my ski boots off. It was super warm that day, I think I drove home in flip-flops.

I drove all the way back to Allentown in ski boots the day the ski patrol chased me and Root out of blue in 2009

Looks pretty good. You should go so I can read a report. I bet you'll be able to get a table tonight in the restaurant.

I recall hearing the same thing. On the big storm the other year, they had them on hold, so I drove back up to the summit in ski boots.

Boom!!! You're racking up the days!!!

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Quad was running during that storm the infamous vtmark was in the house today. Longest day of season for me. At cici's now. Good couple runs with toast

fuck i was headed up after work...

I really was never going to regularly ski Elans, they're not my skis, I was only curious. But Atomics being the FIS inventory were specifically recommended from the women's line and they were right on the money. They're softer and shorter than the men's version, but in this case it works to my advantage because I'm no way a racer, and that's who the FIS skis are made for. When one says softer or easier it all depends on what the baseline is. And I'm pretty sure the price varies both ways.

Btw, somebody has fallen off the 6-pack yesterday, right over the part where Sidewinder starts. Had to be evacuated. Use the safety bar.

hayata and I always park in the line that is facing you that backs up to the beginner hill.

Look to the sides of Main Street (sometimes Lazy) later in the morning and drop over the spine and pop off the lip back onto the trail to get your feet wet and practice. That way you can pick the size of the jump you want and amount of air you want to get. Then move up to the jumps on Come Around and/or Lower Park. I don't like the way they make the landings at Blue's jumps, as they're too close and I always fly them and land on the flats. Yeah, I know, slow down, but what fun is that!

Better to be pompous than basic!!

See if this is enough of a Score for you on the mx89's (I was tempted) https://forum.pugski.com/threads/fs-kastle-mx89-172cm-w-attack-13s.7416/

That's real cool grilledsteezesand Wich

Add in the obligatory stop at Roy Rogers, a pee break and driving through the lot looking for a parking space and you'll hit that magical number.

Better music in this for shadows.

If its that bad im kickin my skis off

Only 3 weeks until Jackson hole. As we get closer I'll have to post stoke more frequently. Here's a cool video from a few years ago. It's pretty unique. Snow in the forecast Saturday and around Wednesday next week..they need another solid storm or two to open the Hobacks and other lower faces.

CB is famous for wind closures. Blue, not so much. HSDLs are good for 60mph+ crosswinds. Fixed grips? Decide for yourself:

Is this year 2 of your skiing? Don't just take a lesson, take a LOT of lessons. If you don't you'll cement bad habits that will hold you back when you want to ski bumps or trees, or hit warp speed at Blue with the PASRs. I worked my arse off last year, skiing whenever I could no matter the conditions. I took lessons, I did drills, nice people gave me advice, friends videoed me skiing so I could see ALL of my shortcomings, and I took more lessons. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but I'm way closer than I was last year and I have SO much more fun. When I carve a beautiful turn I say a little mental "F YEAH!!" To each his own and whatnot, but sking well a joy in itself. If you settle for just getting down stuff with minimal competence you'll miss out on a deep well of fun and satsfaction.

They are fun. I’ll have to bring out the old park skis to hit the dfd rail at Blue on a warm day this spring. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk