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This is March all over again where we form two camps, lockdown vs no lock down which means we're all still missing the point. A lock down buys you time, that's it, if you do nothing with that time you end up back in the exact same spot down the road. This idea that humans have such control over nature is ludicrous and based almost entirely out of a fear of mortality not a response to reality. Nationally there is no enumerated power within the federal government to enact a national shutdown but he could ask for one and get some level of compliance. Wolf has said pretty emphatically that no state wide shutdown would occur, likely based on that the state Republicans would lose their shit. Regardless we are all still missing the point we talked about in March. A lockdown without a holistic understanding and addressing of humans needs both financially and mentally is ultimately meaningless. Rich people who work from home can virtue signal all day long and bleat about masks until the end of days but it won't matter one bit because starving or serious depression is far more real and dangerous than Rona. What we are trying to do is control a part of nature that existed longer than we have. That is of prime level difficulty and instead of using our best tools, imagination and creative thinking, we've done the same thing we've done with politics. X vs Y, lockdown vs no lockdown. It didn't work in March and it won't work here unless you do all the other stuff that is complicated and messy that no one wants to do. Additionaly at some level humans need to get ok with the fact of existence that we cannot control everything. Humans will die, you, I, everyone will die, diseases will kill people. These are the simple facts of existence to fixate on zero deaths is a noble but ultimately ridiculous concept. What we need is targeted, attack the low hanging fruit, do our best to mitigate and accept that the die was cast the day the virus showed up. The really really really big one is to take what we've learned and to build a society that is built to both reduce the risk and impact of such events...... but let's get real we won't do that, we'll bleat about numbers we don't understand and yell endlessly back and forth about lockdowns and who isn't wearing masks. Eventually a vaccine will come along save our bacon and well go right back to same shit that got us in this mess in the first place. We are dumb hairless apes with some real nifty tricks but we cannot run counter to nature and expect to win especially if we aren't even playing the right game.

Yeah, and the leader of our country's biggest concern right now is "making America Trump again" He couldnt give 2 fucks about the virus at this point.

People are so fucking stupid that they’ll think up any damn excuse other than actually believing science. Fuck.

I'm not. There will be limitations and restrictions, but there will be no shut down.

No, he’s reading it.

Some people WAY hairier than others....

I am and said as much Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I luv me WF. Salty can suck it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think the initial, seemingly overnight, shutdown was in response to fear and an unknown. It was a seemingly logical reaction to what, at the time, where it looked like we could be in a full blown horror movie kind of situation. We didn't know much about this virus and it was killing tons of people. Now we know much more, we know how to treat it, we know who is most susceptible to it and we have things in place to mitigate some of the risks. It would take more political capital than he has left in the tank for Wolf to order another shut down. In drips and drabs some restrictions might come out but for the most part what we are seeing now will be the status quo for a while.

Hell yeah I might go to east New York and hangout with action Bronson and Body

I believe PA is one of only three states allowed into NY without restrictions

You transphobic, Doug? or does she just get you all hot and bothered? She's actually done a really good job and has been working hard throughout the whole pandemic. How about a little respect for her work and stop being preoccupied with what type of genitals she has.

I've got my hopes up for sliding down a hill and then drinking beer from the trunk of my car.

Anyone can ride the lcc, its national park land and the resorts only rent the land under the lifts. Though there are some small parcels that are owned prior to the park but my recollection is they were trying to buy them up. Dick Bass loves to transfer shit at snowbird for better land elsewhere. Alta has a couple groomers but nothing like DV. Alta is mostly traverses that access steeper bowls or lines. A noob can ride Alta and have fun but your going to run the same 10 or so groomers all day long. Alta is 100000000x more impressive and beautiful than DV. DV looks like VT and Alta looks like real mtn skiing. The bird is even easier to get to rowdy goods and you can board there. I'd say if your going all the way to UT pick your hills on where you want to go not cost. DV is fantastic groomers but like 8 on the list of places to ride in UT

What JLaw said because I’m not that smart

Hasn't given a fuck about it since the start. He won't do anything about it for the next two months because it won't be his problem and will put president-elect in a difficult position to put restrictions in place to manage the 250k+ daily cases that will occur by then if nothing is done now.

As well as schools. I think most of them will be virtual again very soon.

Got this thing to put on the roof of my car for a skifari this winter.

Treat yo self at Deer Valley. The St Regis has a nice ambiance.

They’d be just fine.

His RTMs couldn't handle WF.

Lots of stupid in this post saltman.

Yup Tuesday and Wednesday nights. They might be able to get a little production out. Barb and Jim if you’re reading this try for a valley opening..will be less hectic and more socially distant. Can open tuts to lazy to falls to homestretch.

Dont believe everything you read. And what i mean is, dont believe either map. Notice that the 2 are drastically different. Long range forecasts are bullshit, and usually put out on slow news days, like days when Trump hasnt done something stupid.

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Neat. on a nice sunny day, this is a nice spot at Snowbird to have a cold beverage. View from the deck is outstanding. Nothing wrong with the view from the new fancy lodge at the top of the tram either.

Jackson hole received 30”+ earlier this week and another storm is a few hours away.

People are posting shit like this on Facebook. Is it worth killing grandma for a little yummy in your tummy.

That’s to be determined.

Check other state's restrictions.

Wow just wow

OK.

That's actually probably going to be the bigger issue, we'll get some tastes but when the hell winter shows up is anyones guess

Makes me want to listen to Creed.

You don't need hopes. It is actually going to happen whenever winter weather decides to arrive in PA

Hit snowbasin and powder mtn

Yeah, I'll fly out of Newark if the time + money equation comes out ahead of philly based on better flight itinerary, but if it's the same basic itinerary to save $100 on the flight alone, probably not. DV is intermediate groomer heaven. You'll have a blast there. As others have said though, Alta is a lot more challenging of a mountain. I haven't skied there much, but I don't remember much in the way of groomers compared to DV, PC, or Canyons. Not on the lifts, but as far as I understand it, you can hike or cut over from snowboard and ride down Alta on a board.

As @Ski2Live Live2Ski would say..fools and their money.

Fingers crossed. It’s time to hit the slopes, enough of this rain

Yeah absolutley no way that would happen or even work here. People won’t even put a mask on for 3 minutes to go to Wawa, they’re not going to text the government every time they leave their house

Citizens of Greece are required to text the government when they leave their house, and state the reasons thereof. Perhaps this will be implemented here to enforce the national lockdown. Doubt skiing would be on the list of acceptable activities.

I don't think there is any legal way for a national lockdown to be implemented. I think skiing will be annoying but not closed this year. My theory is still that unless tickets are restricted we will see a large influx of people getting on the mountains as they see it as a relatively safe outdoor activity. I think it will be similar to how one week I was out in Wissahickon and enjoying the scenery alone and the next week you were dodging tons of people and a family who thought a stroller was a good idea on a hiking trail. Come mid January people will be clawing at the walls with nothing else to do so they will turn to skiing.

Remember when stores were sold out of Garlic because people on FB or whatever said if you eat alot of Garlic you wont get Covid? some funny shit on the internet for sure.

New theory I’m seeing being tossed around is that the flu shot is causing the increase I positive tests because the numbers sky rocketed not long after the push to get a flu shot. ok. I got a flu shot and tested negative so that’s out the window pretty quick, in my eyes at least.

Welp... jersey is at April peak #’s and you guys are in uncharted territory. “Good” news here is deaths still way down (lagging indicator but fingers crossed). I have still yet to purchase my blue season pass. Back in spring not in mood. Ok with paying walk-up price for pass this year and will do so once the season starts. Enjoy the extra 3-hundo Barb. Non ski related but only saving grace is this fall has been a slamming surf season in the NE. Hope it keeps up this winter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I do love a good old fashioned.

You would be fine at DV and would have a blast skiing there. The groomers are fantastic. Take a moment to ride the funicular up to St. Regis and get yourself a drink by a fire pit. Avoid Alta.

Please for the love of all that is skiing do not take the flight to Tampa. Utah is by far the most convenient western destination for skiing. A few hour flight, grab the rental car, and be booting up an hour later (depending on flight times of course)