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And with no high speed lifts it would keep certain parking lot dancers away.....

Hey All, I’m back from another fun morning at Blue mountain the true mountain. I arrived at the lower lot at 8:25am and it was 52 degrees with fog slowly trying to clear. In the house were TP4, BenM, Charles, bethlehemFordGuy, Rodney and JBS. The warmth and rain has done a number on the base and there are some bare spots and skeet spots. First run in Sidewinder snow wasn’t that great some soft some firm some brown snow some white. Home stretch and the falls were really uneven. Switchback, Lazy and Paradise were all much better and Main Street at least upper had the best snow..cocaine white. I only skied razors once and it was firm choppy crud..not that nice. There were only a handful of people out and I managed 11 runs from 9-1040...tomorrow could be rain and thunderstorms but Saturday is looking like a beautiful spring skiing day. JADIP this is is a picture from when I left.

Rough up here tonight. Ready for a beer. First night session in years with @RidgeRacer @Justo8484 @mbike-ski

I heard Dr. Toast is going to tank a project or two so he can milk that for an extra semester and the sweet sweet discount.

Everyone is getting all worked up about this company coming in and dumping some cash on both CB and Blue. The odds of anything changing from a high up level is extremely slim. Saying that "This company owns both Blue and Camelback" is like saying a credit union owns both my car and the guy's down the block. Technically true but it doesn't matter to the operation of either vehicle.

Right. A friend's KIA drove for 5 years with zero issues. It must drive for the following 5 years with no issues too. Or not, as it's a KIA. My Honda's GPS was syncing radio's time with satellites for 16 years. It must be doing it even now. Oh wait, there was a GPS week rollover bug, so all of a sudden it no longer works since Feb 2020. Whatever you do tomorrow, don't board chair 62. Or 63 because that's the next one to detach.

Still good out here.

Sweaty engineering time Ok so Camelback has been open since 1963 and, although a chair apparently fell off the bullwheel once, only 3 people have fallen off of a chair. Camelback does not share skier visit #s though so you can't get a percent there If we consider only Sullivan, it has been running since 1995 year round with 66 chairs and a 3.1min bottom to top time according to liftblog. Since 1995 66 chairs/6min round trip * more or less 5 full months worth of operating after considering both winter and occasional summer operation * 30 days/month * 12 hours/day * 60min/hour is 1,188,000 trips and only 1 chair has fallen off. This gives literally somewhere on the order of 1 in a million chance even on Sullivan. If there are about 2,500 ski lifts in the US, and at least as many no longer exist, and less than a dozen chairs or so have ever fallen off of a list in the US with people on them (mostly Yan detachables), this gives odds on the order of 1 in 500 million that a chair will fall off in any given trip or about 0.000000001% chance

Went up today for an afternoon session, pretty sure Atomic and Mute were there too but never could find them. Brown town for sure but really coverage is pretty good. Icy granular soft stuff, good bad snow and it was t-shirt weather. Sad to see the number of days left shrinking.

Empty, corn, beautiful temps. Really nice evening. I haven't seen blue mountain this bare / brown in a long time. Thet lost a ton since I was here Sunday. That said it's a heavenly evening out here. Enjoy it while you can.

They keep relaxing the rules and people are fed up with masking, quarantining, social distancing and those getting vaccinated think they're immune, so....

It also helps that your parents gave you a business.

There's difference between being educated and being intelligent. I've met some educated idiots in my day.

Completely agree. Realistically 90% of "improvements" a mountain could make would actually be detrimental to PASRs. The perfect mountain for PASRs would be Mount Cain on Vancouver Island. It's got two t-bars, a group of volunteers to man them and places to park and camp. Oh and some gnarly rocky mountain terrain.

Yup. I fully expect basically nothing to change. But if it does, I don't see much of it being a direct benefit the PASR crowd, is what I was getting at. Probably speaking too broadly here, but I don't think many of us really care about hotels or fancy lodges or water parks etc at our local hill.

Fog is lifting

Depends. How much control do said new owners have over Blue? We've all seen how Camelback is run; I don't want that. If nothing materially changes at Blue, you've now got let's say twice as many people with a valid Blue pass, so how many more people does Blue get on a given weekend once people start to realize that Blue is a shit show, but considerably less of one than Camelback? Like I said previously, I don't see how this materially affects the majority of PASRs in any positive way. There will be flaming ski poles and bigfeet if the no tailgating rule gets implemented.

There is nothing I could care less about in the grand scheme of the skiing world than a combo pass with camelback. I mean... I wouldn't say @indiggio made it up. I've heard similar things from at least three other completely unrelated sources at this point. Something's going on, and it sounds like pretty much the worst/most useless outcome for those of us who don't give a crap about a hotel or improved lodge. Hopefully whatever's going down at least comes with a terrain expansion to spread out all the new season pass holders.

Thinking I might go to Camelback tomorrow night given better base condition and, surprisingly, better night rate than Blue I will try my hardest to avoid the parking scam and to not let my chair fall off the cable

There are choices you can proactively make, - put the bar down or not. Old part-time ski patroller (and full time ER doc) I knew used to say the bar on a chairlift is like a seat belt in a car. - adjust your gear while on the chair or not. - Swing your legs so the chair bounces and sways. - Stick your poles out side the 'zone' so said poles catch on something, trees, etc, get caught on the tree and pull you out of the chair. Many choices.

Well I checked with the state and they do not plan to release the investigation report. So we may never know. Other states do view such records as public - Colorado and Michigan are two. At least they are investigating. Lots of states don't have tramway oversight at all.

Ok so what I saw was only about buddy tickets I guess, now that I look into it again, it says passes purchased before 9/17 get buddy tickets But I didn't actually say any dates or anything about price increases so what I said before is kind of fake news. I guess it is possible that prices would go up that same day? but I have no clue

I’m so glad I don’t have the job to manage on the ridiculous complaining. If you have a family of five, that’s on you.

We really might need a cheap-asses trying to save $50 thread.

I thought it saved $200+ initially but as I read it - it’s such a small difference. regardless, I still have a grad student ID and staff ID (from when I coached)

Correct.

one would think people concerned about attending college would be at least slightly above average intelligence, but i guess not always the case

Will it end this discussion?

Wanna just give us both $50?

take it to the cheap-asses trying to save $50 thread.

Latest storm skiing podcast interviews head of Alterra who discusses possibility of adding CBk to their lineup. Will hold off on purchasing Epic Local as I see what happens there.

The ~$50 discount is definitely worth it compared to thousands in tuition. I think I might take your advice.

Exactly. I cant get worked up about something that “might” happen. Remember, there was hotel talk, what, 5-6 years ago, and no dirt has been over turned in that one as of yet.

Should be nice later. Shooting for 4:30 to 5 arrival.

It all depends on who you are receiving it through. Best bet is to call and try to do that. Worst they can say is no.

I am waiting for Indy Pass info to drop this summer before buying any pass, although epic northeast $335 student price is very tempting with roundtop being the closest ski area to me at just under 1hr away. Might even do both (for less than the cost of Blue!). Issue is that epic areas will all likely continue to be zoos on weekends, and I also have a vendetta against Vail for taking over and screwing up good old Ski Roundtop. If by some miracle it turns out I can get more than 4-6 days trips out of Indy, without having to do insane day trip drives to the out-of-state places, that is what I will do. Currently only Shawnee, which largely lacks challenge, and Blue Knob, which usually lacks snow, are easily day trip-able for me. $199 was last year's price, which could likely go up, but, while inexpensive, would only be worth it if I used it up North a good bit. If any, and I really mean literally any (even Spring or Sawmill), of the other currently unaffiliated areas in PA get added to Indy that would make the decision easy for me to get it. Or Plattekill. Platty would definitely make it worth it.

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Yup one of my best female friends is a mom and when I text with her at like 655am on a weekday she’s already accomplished a ton and I’m just hoping to get a fast jerk in before I put my ski clothes on.

Boo airdropped me this when I told her your response

Because they suck and Blue doesn't.

No thanks and just rumors indiggio made up.

Camelback's owners also own Blue now, right? Maybe they can do a Blue/Camel multi pass for ya'll.

That's what I've been saying and why I brought up the Granby Ranch accident. People keep saying it's not relevant because those victims fell but the chair did not. But witnesses said the CBK chair was swaying and bouncing, and the guy interviewed on WFMZ actually said the chair went nearly vertical and then the passengers fell off right before the chair fell. People who were there that day commented on the weird bouncing and swaying prior to the accident. My point was just that there seems to be some sort of surge or dynamic aberrance that the two accidents have in common. That doesn't explain why the CBK chair detached of course, but it does indicate that there was something significantly wrong not just with the chair but with the larger operating system.

And the views on Sea to Sky highway are incredible.

Done. Epic Local Pass 2021/2022 purchased. This is grate!

For your enjoyment:

Caught an injured hawk today. Thinking it got blown into something during the recent wind event. Came back with my trout net and cat carrier and caught it. Bought it to the Raptor Trust. They ID’ed it as a sharpshinned hawk. Relatively rare in our area. They gave me contact info and said to check back in 48 hrs to see how it’s doing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk