Timeless
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Just come back from 2-3 hours or so at CB this morning, a little windy so the quads seemed to be running slower than normal but as there was nobody there this hardly mattered.
Conditions were generally very good, grooming up to the normal CB standards (ie very good)
Cliffhanger was in nice condition with a few "pebbles" near the top but nice over the headwall and into the lower sections
Pharaoh was excellent, nice soft, loose surface groomed perfectly, bactrian back to the lift was a little crunchy in places but OK.
As the raceway lift wasn't running the only access to raceway was through ceasars, and near east which were both ok (for flat narrow little connecting trails) with a nice surface, but raceway was excellent, wide open fresh cord with a "whale" of fresh snow at the top for a little extra fun.
Skipping over to the other side, Hump was really "pebbly" but gave decent grip, asp was good, rocket was the best run of the day for me (so I did it 3 times), marjies had a great surface but strangely had like 3 "lanes" plowed into it which made it less than perfect. You could see these from the base and were kinda strange.
Big pocono and upper cleos were both great, the bumps on lower cleos were fun with a fresh coating of snow.
Note / Question to CB management : were the moguls closed? There was a fence across the top but it wasn't clear of this was to stop accidental entry from honeymoon lane of if they were closed off. Maybe a sign would be good here?
Anyway the moguls with an inch or two of fresh surface snow were alot of fun (even on a board), it's nide to see they are maintaining these nicely rather than just letting them form naturally and ice up.
I didn't do any of the other runs, there were no crowds and the sun was shining, all in all a great morning.
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if CB put snipers in the trees to pick people off as they ski, the season passholders still wouldnt complain
I'm a pass holder and try not to complain too much, but if you look to what started the "mountain closing" thing.......
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Have you heard of "Mystery Shopper." CB uses them to help with making improvements, especially in customer service. They come here several times a season (covertly) and basically review all areas. CB generally rates very well in most areas. Areas with any deficiency is addressed asap.
I dont doubt that for a minute and this supports the theory above that the tagret demographic is the occaisional skier/rider rather than the "local" or "regular". As a one time visit I would imagine the CB experience is no different to any othe pocono resort and the size and trail variety gives it an edge, maybe countered by the weekend crowds.
I think our expectations are too high and couldn't possibly be met by anywhere being run mainly for profit.
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I'm sure there is no real bad feeling towards SkiCB personally, I for one appreciate his updates and he has my sympathy having to feed that line out to the message board, which he is under no obligation to do, he could just ignore our moaning. I would rather he "sacked up" and kept posting despite the negativity from people who don't even ski there.
It's a feeble excuse though, on Sunday PM it was not any colder than it had been all day and my 6 year old (properly attired) would have stuck his newly acquired ski poles up the butt of anyone who suggested he couldn't ski the east side anymore so that he could easily warm up.
I understand the sentiment of the "look after the school club kids" message, but isn't the reality that CB just wants to limit the amount of "risk" they subject these kids to with the minimum amount of staff. You could always open the Glen lodge if your that worried about the little ones.
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I'm actually going into aerospace engineering and day one they kind of laid it out for us - if we make mistakes people die, much more so than anywhere else. Any little thing goes wrong on an airplane or a rocket and hundreds of people end up dead so I figure it's a good thing.
Completely off topic but...
Ha, you have a lot to learn about aerospace, they are just a penny-pinching as any other industry when it comes down to it. I started my career in avionics, designing control systems for pressure and oxygen systems on all kinds of commercial and military aircraft including the euro-fighter and the F-22, some of the people working on those programs were the worst engineers, they tend stick to the aerospace companies which pay less than areas like telecoms because they cant learn new stuff and the technology tends to be "tried and tested" rather than innovative.
I do miss working on fighter aircraft stuff though, much cooler than telecoms basestations.
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i've gotten yelled at multiple times for going up the sides on nile
really? I've never seen the rangers bother anyone about that and people do it all the time.
Paradise is nowhere near as nice as Nile.
Going back to the original point of this post, the idea of slow skiing areas. Only the bunny hills should be designated as slow skiing areas. If they want to police certain areas by getting whistle-happy when there is alot of traffic then that's fine (they often do this on the meadows at CB) and really they should be able to do this on any green trail where you might expect a lot of muppets. But when there is little or no traffic, why waste a wide open trail?
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Maybe they'll use this to claim "trail expansion" when they build the f'in hotel on top of my parking space.
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hahahahahaha
I was actually critizing Blue in front of Mark Miller...
CB opens at 8 on weekends...
The nice thing about CB though is that even on weekends I can park within 50 feet (maybe less) of the stevenson quad and there are very few people around until 9.30-10.30
The lifts are (nearly) always open early and I can be on Cliffy, Pharoah or Nile by 8.00, though I do wish they would open at 7.30.
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They've never done that before.
Yeah, it winds me up so badly when they do stuff like this. If it wasn't for the extra drive and the fact that it seems Blue's grooming / snow quality seems so much worse, I would move our passes to Blue next year. (I'm basing this on the reports from you guys lately, not on my opinions). Maybe JF though....
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I didn't know the stuff on sunbowl was open to the public. It didn't look great, but a much better setup than rhodo. I'll reserve all further judgment on rhodo until I sack up and hit the up-down.
it wasn't, I was just using it as reference point for the kind of features you may have been looking for. My point was that they don't have space in that on run to have both the existing features and another set of that size.
As for rhodo, maybe the entry requirements for discusing the merits of the park should be as you put it "to sack up and hit the up-down"
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I cant comment on the quality of the features in Rhodo, but having spent some considerable time on the raceway lift this weekend I can say a couple of things.
1) That up/down box looks freaking scary to someone like me (that's probably a good thing) but the few (2-3) people I saw hit it did so with some style so it really can't be too bad for experienced park rats.
2) 90% of the people running through that park either hit nothing at all, or made some lame attempt over one of the jumps.
This goes back to Glenn's point that the set-up between there and LG is too polarizing, one too advanced, the other too easy but you can't please everyone. The competition run they put on sunbowl looked more like what Glenn was looking for, but as soon as it was up people on here were calling it "gay". go figure.
CB's park crew seem to have done a decent job at providing some really challenging features, the real problem I see with Rhodo is that it's really just too small to make a really balanced and varied advanced park.
They really should just sacrifice upper moores ramble as a trail, spread the features across the two trails and through lower moore's and dedicate the glen lift to the parks.
As a non-park seaon pass holder I would have no objection to this at all.
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A few weeks ago it was 60 degrees -- this morning it was below ZERO at CB!!
Everything is open EXCEPT for the LG PARK and PIPE. LG is recieving another round of snowmaking. The Rhodo Park and the Big Pipe are both open. The Oakley Rail Jam Quarter Pipe in Sunbowl is still in place for your jibbing pleasure. Bumps continue on Rocket, and reports are that the slope is a little scratched off. If Bumps are what your looking for -- Lower Cleo might be the route.
Conditions are packed pow, with very good coverage. Crowds should be light because it's Monday and cold.
If you like packed pow, and no crowds and nearly exclusive use of a Quarter Pipe, Today is your Day!!
Please take measures to protect yourselves from frost bite -- you don't know you got it until it's too late...
If you dont get enough people today are you going to start closing trails again like you did Sunday afternoon?
WTF was that about
Conditions this weekend were excellent and I was actually enjoying the crowds diminishing though the afternoon, my kids and I were looking forward to a good evening of muppet-free skiing over on the east side. Then the slower lifts stop running, no problem with that, it's understandable given the low number of people. Then we are told as we get off the quad to head down "cheesers" because "we are closing down the east side, but it's OK because the rest of the mountain is still open"
Message to CB as a paying customer "IT'S NOT OK TO CLOSE HALF THE HILL BECAUSE YOUR STAFF WANT TO WATCH A FOOTBALL GAME"
OK, rant over, the conditions on Saturday and Sunday morning, and even Sunday afternoon were excellent, especially on the steeper stuff.
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CB is now claiming 156 and Blue says they have 130...
Is Blue even as big as Shawnee? Alpine? Hideout?
This could give some people a complex....
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i knwo its up and ive seen pictures. are we going to be able to ride it tonight???
i dont have much time on the computer so please answer quick.
Pretty sure they're not going to let anyone on it prior to the competition.
It's on the sunbowl? Will there be enough run-in to get decent speed?
Should be good from a spectators perspective.
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Sadly it appears my season is over. I've had a lot of complications from my surgery and after seeing 3 doctors today they all agreed that I have a bunch of internal problems that mean I can't do anything physical for about 2 - 2.5 months. Clearly rock climbing & lifting at the gym are out, and I protested on the snowboarding saying I don't fall (if I don't do the park), but the doctors agreed that we're not talking hardcore snowboarding verse cruising around, they're saying I can't take stairs two at a time or jog twenty feet or lift a heavy box on the floor without ending up in a hospital. My primary doctor told me I have the most dangerously enlarged spleen he has ever seen in his 35 years of being a doctor and if I tear it I will die faster than they could ever get me to a hospital. So this years over for me, I'm looking into possibly doing a summer camp at Whistler or Mt Hood because by then I could be ok, but I'm not sure if I'll have the money (although I had budgeted for 3 lift tickets per week all season plus a big vacation and now I had to cancel it all), but certainly none of the pocono area mountains will still be open by the time I can start up again. My only consolation is that this winter has sucked hardcore and after a few months I'll be back to normal and fine next season but man, has this been the shittiest day ever.
Wow, sorry to hear that. can't they just cut the little f#$*er out? you could be riding again in a couple of weeks.
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On Sunday, we are hosting the Mid-Atlantic Snowboard Series GS & Slalom Event on Pocono Raceway.
will all of raceway be unavailable because of this or will it just be the normal Nastar area?
Thanks for the update, cant wait to hit big poc' tomorrow AM.
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any tips, suggestions, comments, etc. would be great.
As Doug said the main thing will be to keep warm, it can be brutally cold on the peaks at Killy.
If I understand correctly that you are an intermediate skier then skye peak is going to offer some great runs for you (cruise control, skylark etc) and is serviced by the second gondola, Killington peak (off of the main gondola) can be a bit limited unless you are expert (go down the canyons area) or you want to follow all the day trippers down great northern. There are some good runs off of great northern but they may not take you back to the gondola again.
The little triple (north ridge) often give some good runs down east fall, reason etc and doesn't get so busy so early.
Snowdon peak (off of the very slow quad or triple) have some nice green / blue runs, I like bunny buster into mouse trap (watch out for the crossing point if it's busy) then either back to bunny buster or into chute.
Personally I think you will find ramshead a little dull after a couple of runs.
If you like really long but not steep runs, take great eastern all the way down to the skyeship gondola base, or at lunch time follow great eastern until you get to falls brook then follow the signs all the way down to the bear paw restaurant, you have to ski through the middle of a new condo development but it's quite a nice pre-lunch run.
Most of all, have fun and don't bounce off too many trees.
Just do laps off the gondola...the runs are long off it, and that'll warm you up, and kmart's gondolas are semi heated...you'll be fine. BTW, head over to Bear Mtn for some nice cruisers. Outer Limits is a personal favorite. Nice and mellow.You are an evil, bad man
Why not suggest devil's fiddle as a warm up run.
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is anyone going to ask how a bad skier on twin tips was going faster than 'dude
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Update for Today's Dawn Patrol Report:
The Laurel Glade Park has:
Rainbow Box
Log Jib
16' Flat Box
Flat - Down Box
12' Up Box
2 Jumps
and Yes -- the sun is still out. Packed Pow conditions continue...
Disclosure Statement:
The author of this report may not (or may) have skied today. The above stated information on the features/conditions were recieved from sources deemed reliable. Information provided is intended for your consideration, the author may not (or may) have witnessed or viewed the snow, the mountain, the trails, the jumps, the boxes, the rails, the lifts, the groomers, the rentals, or the drink selections in the cooler. All opinions and facts stated are only that of the author. Skiing and snowboarding is a fun sport and should be limited to those that like to have fun as much as possible.
His reports are the same as the snowphone..he should wait until he actually skis to post a report..of course it's groomed packed powder..at 7:00AM...duh...I'd much rather read an actual trip report from somebody who skied than a marketing guy who is going to sugarcoat everything..I'm hoping it snows enough Thursday night into Friday for my work to be cancelled so I can get some fresh Poe. Funny that the roads won't be good enough to drive 1.5 miles to work but I'll make it the 18 miles to Blue easily...
Sorry for being Obnoxious..
yeah, it's funny how the drive can be so difficult on some roads and not others.
I at least have a decent mismatch, with 60 miles to work through a ton of NJ drivers vs a few miles to CB to enjoy the fresh snow.
and you're not really sorry, or obnoxious (generally)
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oh wait..your reports aren't based on actual skiing....
Doug, you really can be obnoxious sometimes, SkiCB's reports are great for those of us that actually plan to ski at CB especially during the week.
SkiCB, any new on opening big poc? I see the trail report says you've stopped snowmaking on it, I hope that's because it's ready?
I may bunk work on Friday if we get some snow Thursday night, will there be anything new for Friday AM?
Thanks
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Thanks SkiCB for the update, when will big poc' and asp be opening?
I think we are all happy with the beverage selection....now about your employees doing bad things to the food.
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wrong again.. notice anything missing? no one has said that the pipe was awesome.
you can (and probably will) slam me for not knowing anything about pipe cutting (this is true), but to counter the statement above, as an impartial bystander I have to say that the general tone of peoples comments on the pipe on this MB were positive (until the moved the fence and upset Glenn)
Given how much we all like to whip CB when they do something bad, this tells me the pipe was actually a good addition to the mountain even if it didn't live up to your expectations or their marketing hype.
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I usually don't swear, but what's the fucking point? This morning "upper management" decided that the EXPERT PARK PASS ONLY PARK was too dangerous and had the park crew move the fencing from the top of the trail (where there was some extra pitch to pick up speed) to about 15 feet in front of the pipe (where it's pretty flat). To get a really good first hit you need to skip what would have been the first 2 hits in the pipe. They made the pipe pretty short to start with, now the front portion isn't usable. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but what a let down. The lady checking park passes let me know about the suggestion box in the cafeteria. They might as well have an additional one at the park.
After this move, I don't really think rhodo will be anything special. I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't have any gapped lips to the rails.
BB - Best park
Blue - Best gaper park
CB - Most creative marketing team
Also, papasteeze for a good laugh check out the tree jib in the LG park.
The fence was pretty close to the top of the pipe on Sunday, kind of level with the tree line at the top of the trail.
I guess this was so you could ride from the glen lift to upper moores ramble rather than to deliberately restrict the run in to the pipe.
Maybe once the main park is open they will effectively make this lift the access to both park and pipe, they would only lose moores ramble in doing so, they could add some extra features to those for the park peeps.
Personally as one who doesn't ride park or pipe (yet), I would care if they cut off this entire section of the mountain for park features, it's fairly self contained around that lift.
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saturday night into sunday night was above freezing
Website this morning showed snowmaking only on coolmoor, and prediction for next weekend "only" 26 trails. Given the progress they have made this last week, I was hoping to see the guns blazing on big poc' and asp today.
Maybe they are committed to skiing
in Camelback
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from memory of the last couple of years they don't tend to blow too much after the beginning of February unless things have gotten patchy.
They do seem to be blowing a lot of snow on trails that already have decent coverage (like Nile, Marjies etc just recently), I expect that they are making the most of this current cold weather to make sure they have decent base through to the coming holiday weekend and though to the seasons end without having to blow snow in less optimal conditions when it would cost more and produce lower quality snow.
Whatever the reason, who cares. Make the most of the currently excellent conditions while they last.