EdBacon

Just take a picture of it and keep it on your phone.

B and C are both late 80s Borvig triples that share towers. I can't remember off the top of my head if they both run that often, but I feel like they do on weekends at least. Going to a quad would be a reduction in max uphill capacity unless the new lift is slightly faster. Although to be fair, equating two trips with a six-pack is sort of cocktail napkin estimation. I mean you have to factor in that every chair in each triple line doesn't get three people. Lots of chairs loading with two people, etc. So maybe managing one lift line ends up being more efficient for the lifties than two.

https://www.facebook.com/indyskipass/photos/a.371502780346965/1016327212531182/ Montage will now be on the Indy Pass for 2021/2022. This adds another NE PA mountain to Indy Pass and fills a pretty big gap in their coverage as Shawnee was the only other Poconos area mountain on the pass.

I think they are talking about the tubing tow. It's a modified hall tbar.

Here's the video of Tuxedo Ridge. Ton of stuff left behind. The owners look like they just walked away six years ago. There's some great retro ski lifts if you're into that sort of thing. Two old Borvig double chairs and a very cool early 60s Poma double chair.

I also just realized that I guess they could reuse the drive and chairs and hang them on one of the shared pylon lifts. Upgrading one side of the East Mountain lifts to a triple, for instance.

Cheaper than going to a chiropractor.

Oh you foolish foolish boys. This is how it all starts! I've seen it all before. I was there! It was called the 80's! Ford was President, Nixon was in the White House, Reagan was running this country into the ground. I was bumming in a hole in the wall town in what is now called Utah. Some fella from Colorado shows up and starts making all kinds of so called "improvements", right? Before we knew what hit us, the streets were running us with lattes! Yup! It got so bad that a fellow that liked to, you know, smoke a little grass or drink a little ripple. Crow like a rooster! Maybe challenge the mayor's son to a gentlemen's duel, is uncouth, "Against God!" and bad for real estate values. So we had to go! Be careful what you wish for!

Let me know if you ever wanna go.

Investment into what?

The parking lot at the top of the mountain is a great make out spot. Then you get tacos on the way back.

They turn that into a gift shop place in the off season. Unless you need an I ❤️ The Poconos hoodie and a pet rock.

I've honestly never had a problem with Camelback. I mean, Camelback mountain, the physical mountain itself. It's not a bad little hill. It's everything else I don't like. I guess Barley Creek Brewing is ok. Last time I was there though they didn't toast the bun on my hamburger.

I'd ask if anyone can guess it but... the hearse probably gives it away.

Lots of condos and housing around lots of now lost ski areas too...

All of Frost's top to bottom lifts are 70s or 80s Borvigs which share pylons. The exception is the quad chair which was down for the entirety of the 19/20 season, but it doesn't make sense that they'd reduce capacity there. Likewise for any of the other paired lifts. A triple chair would reduce capacity, unless it was a replacement for one of the two beginner double chairs but isn't the Green Ridge triple a longer lift?

You're not going to hear anything until an investigation concludes and that could take months.

Regional rail is great but needs more frequent service and a few late night trains. The subway in Philly is a use at your own risk situation right now. I've never seen it as bad down there since I moved to Philly for college 13 years ago.

The stain line. The plain line. The tame line?

I mean tons of people do this elsewhere no problem. Amtrak isn't really commuter rail though as tickets are often prohibitive unless you're just in the office once or twice a week. I knew plenty of people who commuted from the Trenton and Princeton areas to NYC though which is a similar distance. Provided reasonable headways its totally feasible for a lot of people.

Service between Philly and Allentown/Reading is where trains excel if the trackage rights and scheduling can be worked out with NS. The old Reading mainline from Landsdale to Quakertown/Bethlehem is no more but a NYC -> Lehigh Valley -> Reading -> Philly route could do well and the line is already there. It would need safety upgrades though for passenger traffic.

Camelback to Ikon rumors

I saw park kids from BB switch over to BC this year too.

Good to hear. Place used to be packed with teenagers but seemed to be much less crowded/quieter the last ten years or so.

Montage is pushing the distance from Philly. At this point leaning towards epic+indy.