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Is the rental shop at BB open?

Has anyone heard yet when they plan to start making snow at JF, and when they will open?

Hey Can we get any more formal announcement? Has it been posted on any JFBB sites yet? How did you find out about it Papasteeze...want to get a more solid confirmation before I make any plans!

Read the quote again before commenting... Not everything in the world is patrolled...some things are OPEN and not patrolled, but they are OPEN that is the key. An area that is CLOSED and is usually patrolled but since it is closed it is not is not an area you should be in. I am amazed that it takes 2 pages on a forum to discuss that you shouldn't go to a ski area when it's closed and try to hike it and ski it. It is a crime and it is unsafe...I can't find how "my" logic is silly. ***Remember...I do believe the JFBB/Peak Resorts higher ups read these forums, and they usually have someone at JFBB working daily doing something, don't you think they will be mindful people will do this and be ready and catch and press charges for trespassing.***

Well it depends...if they are designated trails or areas for it and they are OPEN you definitely should, but if they aren't designated areas and they are CLOSED then you shouldn't. Common guys...this is a ridiculous argument. Every designated alpine ski area is patrolled during the season for a reason. It's closed but it will be open on May 5. It's a dumb idea to do it, that's it. I mean it's illegal because it's trespassing and it's dangerous because it is not maintained or patrolled.

I don't believe going to jail or getting a citation should be the reason to not hike JFBB, the reason is skiing/snowboarding can be a dangerous sport. That's why when it is open it is staffed by fully certified National Ski Patrollers. Beginners aren't the only ones that can get injured! The mt. is not patrolled during the off season, therefore if you are injured and can not remove yourself from the slope it could be hours or days before anyone will find you...that can be fatal. Believe me it's even dumber to think that it won't happen to you. We are all bummed the season is over. Get your bikes or blades out and go have fun at a park. We are lucky they are opening for a rail jam in May. Be smart, and stay safe...don't do something stupid.

My guess would be NO! It doesn't seem like a very smart idea either, especially to do it alone. Stay off for now, but don't worry May 5th will come soon and it will be open again for some Spring Skiing/Boarding fun.

Call BB and speak to the Director of Ski Patrol at BB. I am sure that would be the best way to find out if you could do that. By the way most patrollers are volunteers, very few are paid.(Not because of ski level just because they can commit to certain hours)

I find it to be the STUPIDEST thing for people to enter Closed trails. Ski Patrol DOESN'T close trails for the hell of it, wake up people. They close trails because they are UNSAFE, not because they like to. Now if you want to use the excuse that thats where the best snow is, you are beyond wrong, the snow in there is unsafe, you don't see Ski Patrol free skiing in them for a reason. Any number of things can be in there and exposed i.e. rocks, piping, hoses, snowguns, downed trees, SNOWCATS, ect. But all that aside the most important fact is Ski Patrol DOESN'T sweep those trails at the end of the day. If you get hurt in there and for any number of reasons aren't found in the "Golden Hour" your injury that may have been easily taken care of can now become FATAL(that means you DIE!). No more skiing ever again because you made a stupid move. Would you drive on a "Closed Road" with all those signs that say "Do Not Enter, Closed". No you wouldn't and if you would you need your head examined. It is unsafe. Don't Do It! People caught skiing or riding in closed areas should be arrested and fined for Trespassing. It is trespassing because it is marked Closed and not open to the public, it would be like going onto a football field that is closed because you want to play there instead of at the one down the block that is open. I have no tolerance for the brilliant minds that ski or ride in closed areas.

It is a wonderful thing that the patrollers here on the East Coast can recognize and close down unsafe terrain. Just a little FYI for everyone on here, Ski Patrollers on the East Coast attend seminars and clinics to become certified by the National Ski Patrol in Avalanche Fundamentals, Avalanche I, and Avalanche II. (The same training West Coast Patrollers Receive). Unlike the West Coast Patrollers here on the East Coast those courses are not mandatory. But it is very rare that a patroller would not continue his or her training with the NSP's Continuing Ed. Programs. Every Patroller strives to become as well informed and trained as possible to better serve the skiing and riding public. It's great we have them, and it's great that almost all of patrollers in the US are volunteers out of the about 27,500 National Ski Patrollers here in the US.(Not that the paid ones aren't GREAT, we are lucky to have them too, it's just great to see how many volunteer) They are passionate about what they do.

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I am so sorry to hear that Method. Listen to your Doctors you don't want to mess around with your spleen. Your Doctors are right, the spleen just like the liver is a blood soaked organ. Be careful and make sure you refrain from ALL activities. Remember: abdomen pain, shoulder pain, nausea, weakness are some of the signs to look for with regard to spleen problems. Don't push away the signs as nothing, get them checked. Sorry had to offer up that little bit, hope you get better soon Method! Stay in touch on here!

As I said, they are each taught differently and have trained to take down the Toboggan. Taking down a toboggan anywhere is a talent but a steep for ski and snowboard patrollers is definitely something that is perfected. Snowboard patrollers have a completely different handling of the toboggan when taking it down compared to their brother and sister patrollers on skis. Both have learned their technique, mastered it through many many many days of training(even years), and are both exactly as capable of taking down a toboggan. The only problem snowboard patrollers would have is that skate portion at the end of the trail.(Thats why you have snowmobile drags and fellow patrollers) (But all the Emergency Care training is standardized among patrollers)

Just want to clear things up, Snowboard Patrollers are as efficient as Skiing Patrollers. Both go through intense trainings in their preferred method of patrolling. If in any way a type of equipment was not suited for patrolling the National Ski Patrol would not allow it. There are 3 types of Alpine Patrollers: Telemark, Skiing, and Snowboarding. All are trained properly to function as any other patroller out there. There is no better patroller when it comes to skiing, telemarking, or snowboarding. Each one deserves a ton of praise for accomplishing and passing through National's training curriculum. Each discipline has been thought out and is trained in a certain way so that all Basic Alpine Patrollers can function on the same level.