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The state's name comes from "arizonac", a Papago Indian word meaning "place of the small spring".

That's 42-0.

No anger...no problem...but I sometimes feel compelled to correct his miss-information... Like with CAP times...it actually has EVERYTHING to do with how straight or turny a course is. NASTAR asks resorts to keep their courses standardized to within a certain percentage of the CAP time. The CAP time is the straight, tucked time it takes to go from top to bottom, without gates (we used to call it terminal velocity, as a joke---you sort of are trying to reach your TV). NASTAR requests resorts use a certain amount of gates, offset a certain distance. If the time it takes for racers to go through the course varies too much from the CAP time, then the course is deemed either too turny or too straight. I believe I've also stated that any decent race coach could look at a typical NASTAR course and judge how close the CAP time would be. 1st Grade: I'll bet you $5000 I'm right. And I'll bet you $5000 I was a journalist for the largest newspaper chain in America. Put up. or Shut up. Simple as that.

That's an attempt at humor, right? Because I clearly remember asking you to point out where I was wrong and you couldn't seem to come up with a post... Here's something you might wanna take a look at, though...comes to us from our brothers at Epic: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=37079 Enjoy this journey of enlightment and learning, 1st Grade...don't be hostile to it...accept it...be a sponge not a rock... As Doug would say: "Don't be so sensitive."

Well I always lose arguments with you, Doug, 'cause you use that old standby: "You're too sensitive, Cole", and that's kind of embarassing. But, yeah, I'm 42-0 when it comes to 1st Grade...sort of Ali-like, eh?

It's cool..we all laugh at you. You're just one of us, now. But try not to express your hatred for me in such personal terms in the future, okay? I'm not some spoiled-brat millionaire in the public eye...and maybe I'm wrong, but I see ski related message forums as a place to express opinions and have discussions where people have differing ideas. We all know who each other is on this MB, which is pretty unique among most MB's...but it still feels like a threat when someone starts posting personal info when there is rancor in the discussion. But we're cool for now, right?

1st Grade: Bode's cousin won't be prosecuted and won't be found guilty. HE'S DEAD. He was shot by an ex-marine who just happened upon the scene. I can't believe you don't even bother to read the stories, yet come up with such hostile conclussions toward ME. Secondly, I do NOT believe the townspeople of Franconia are hippies. Many that were interviewed are SELF-PROCLAIMED hippies. Aside from the radical-hippie movement that included the Chicago Seven, I think it's an oxymoron to call someone a "gun carrying hippie". I was being sarcastic by "agreeing" with them and using the term hippies. Hippies are more closely related to Buddhists, IMO...these people are more like Angry Rednecks.

Ugghh...1st Grade: I'm sorry it upsets you so much, but I have a lot of cop friends from when I was a newspaper photographer. Bode and his cousin, as well as the other "hippies" that that hated the cop because he wrote speeding tickets could have chosen another method of getting rid of the officer, instead of shooting him and running him over. In a civilized society, townspeople---even "hippies" can request a vote be held at a town meeting, in which they can then vote to fire the officer. That way, the officer's little girl desn't have to attend her dad's funeral. Read some of the news stories, 1st Grade: one shop owner's only comment about the murder was that the cop was a hardass that made a group of kids move their hackey sack game away from the front foor of her shop. Another shop owner said something bad was bound to happen to the cop because he enforced the speed limit. 1st Grade: you can throw fits and scream like a baby that I'm wrong and I'm just being mean to Bode, but Bode doesn't earn a pass from me just because he has a gift. Bode and his cousin had a lot in common growing up, according to Bode. They were allowed to do pretty much anything they wanted, without fear of discipline.

Right, Shadows, and I suppose it's been good for fundraisers...not everything about Jell-O is gross...

This is what Jell-O doesn't want people to know, Sploosh...

Well, I didn't say eating the leftover product after boiling animal teeth, skin, cartilage and tendons was scary...just gross. And even if you put pretty red lipstick on a dog's ass, I'm still not going to kiss it either. Hey, this thread is getting fun. Thanks, Splooshie!

You can make Snowgel for free...just go to your local butcher or slaughterhouse and grab all the bloody bags out of the dumpster behind the building. Find all the skin, bone, cartilage, tendons, and teeth, then boil the crap out of it. Don't bother with any meat, just the connective tissues...you can speed the process by using alkalines... Happy jibbing! BTW, Rob, I'm not harshing on your thread...I just find gelatin based products pretty gross.

Hey, 1st Grade, can you read? Do you know what an enabler is? An enabler, for example, is someone that bails out and rallies behind a lowlife like the cop killer cousin, then goes on to BRAG in Sports Illustrated how he antagonized the cop. Bode himself was proud that he helped his cousin "put one over on the hardass" police officer. Bode's own words, now they come back and bite him. Did I say it was Bode's fault, or did I say Bode was an enabler? Oh, wait, here, I'll help you out: "Maybe Bode, who was an enabler for the cop killer, will show some compassion and quietly pay for the girl's college. " Or don't you see any trend here with this tight knit clan? Bode mocked his teammates and his coaches for following FIS rules. Bode was going to quit the WC circuit until he realized the money would dry up from sponsors. Maybe Bode should have left his cousin in jail for a while and learn a lesson. Admittedly, it's 20/20 hindsight, but the kid almost killed his aunt twice in one day, then assaulted a cop while resisting arrest...all before the latest incident. 1st Grade, are you really going to defend Bode on this one? "Bode didn't pull the trigger! You are totally ridiculous!" Yeah, 1st Grade, that's a brilliant statement. Only the people that pull the triggers are the one's to blame.

Interesting how people call an out-of-control, cop murdering town an "old hippie town" because it's up north, while they'd call it entirely something different if this had happened in West Virginia. First off, backwater inbred lowlifes try to run over their family members after chainsawing trees onto their homes. And in another AP story, Bode bailed out the cop killer after an earlier run-in, as well as gloating over trying to antagonize the now dead officer by contesting a speeding ticket. Calling these armed, road raging cop killers hippies is like calling all Muslims terrorists. There's a reason people get the death penalty in many states for cop killing: if someone is capable of killing a cop, it's assumed they are capable of a higher degree of crime. Sort of like the difference between punching a fellow student and punching a teacher. So, many townfolk rally around the cop killer and support the murderer by not sending representatives to the cops funeral. Free-spirited hippie kid? Shit...thank god the ex-marine passerby was fortunate enough to put a few bullets in Bode's cousin. Maybe it will be some tiny degree of justice for a little girl who doesn't have a dad. Maybe Bode, who was an enabler for the cop killer, will show some compassion and quietly pay for the girl's college. FRANCONIA, New Hampshire (AP) -- Liko Kenney, described by friends as a free-spirited "Hippie kid," had a history of bad blood with police Cpl. Bruce McKay. So there was the potential for trouble when a traffic stop brought them together again. US Ski Team superstar Bode Miller's troubled cousin shot McKay four times and drove over him. Gregory Floyd, a passing motorist and ex-Marine who saw it all, grabbed McKay's gun and shot Kenney to death when he refused to put his gun down. Authorities quickly ruled the killing justified. McKay, who had a 9-year-old daughter, was to have been married in July atop Cannon Mountain, where Bode Miller learned to ski. Instead his funeral will be held at the mountain. As many as 6,000 officers from throughout the country are expected to attend Thursday's funeral, but in this close-knit mountain valley, where the Kenney family's roots run deep, at least one town may hold back. Plans to send two fire department vehicles from neighboring Easton triggered a heated debate at the selectmen's meeting Monday night. Chairman Paul White, who is married to Kenney's cousin, moved to keep them away in protest. Liko Kenney grew up on his grandparents' rustic tennis camp in Easton, where the extended family still lives. Liko's parents own a coffee plantation in Hawaii, and he followed their seasonal migrations: the islands in winter, the White Mountains in summer. "He was kinda just a happy, hippie kid. He'd do anything to help anyone," said Holly Hayward, 48, who said she'd known Kenney his whole life. Friends and family called Kenney a free-spirited outdoorsman who loved all-terrain vehicles and had issues with authority. Court records show he could be volatile even with his own family. In January 2003, an aunt, Larisa Kenney, sought a restraining order against her nephew, then 19. In a handwritten letter, she told the court Liko had frightened her by chain-sawing trees near her cabin, sending one crashing onto her roof as she slept. When she confronted him, she said Liko exploded -- shouting, grabbing her and then following her on his ATV as she ran to safety at a relative's home. Just weeks later, Liko Kenney had a violent run-in with McKay, who had followed tire tracks into an isolated parking area. Court documents say it took three officers to subdue Kenney, who tried to escape three times, once while cuffed and shackled. One officer said Kenney grabbed McKay in the groin and that McKay reacted by punching Kenney in the face. Kenney's family and many in town say McKay broke Kenney's jaw that night, but Grafton County Attorney Rick St. Hilaire said Kenney's jaw was not broken. Kenney could have gone to prison after pleading guilty to resisting arrest and assaulting McKay. But he got 15 days in jail, time served, when McKay asked for leniency, according to St. Hilaire. Bode Miller also chafed against McKay, telling Sports Illustrated that he contested a 2005 speeding ticket in part to antagonize the officer. Pastor Gary Hart of Franconia Community Church of Christ said McKay's image as a law-and-order man in an old hippie town may have distanced him from others. "Most of the time people saw him he was in his patrol vehicle, he was in uniform, he was stopping people on the road for speeding. And once you get a reputation, it's almost impossible to change it," said Hart, who does some police chaplain work.

This is from skipressworld.com...I thought the member reply at the bottom was pretty funny: 2007-05-30 Ski Team Free, Bode is Ready to Roll Kennelbach, Austria (Ski Press)-Bode Miller is ready to go it alone. In joint announcements from his agent and Head Skis, Bode

Chicks dig a confident guy, Nick...never worry over some dude wanting to try to be with a pretty girl that happens to be your gf...it's when they cross the line that you set them straight. I know you already know this, so I'm just talking to some of the other guys about a point you brought up: girls eventually hate jealous guys. Even if they like the attention at first, it gets really old for them and it always ends badly. So you either chill about the small stuff, or are really careful to beat the piss out of him in a way she doesn't find out. Back on topic...it's good to hear that Transworld got rid of all the haters and there's never any arguing or fighting on their MB.

Yeah, come to think of it, you're probably right. After all, most gang wars have started because one had a better internet website than the other. In fact, Tupac and Biggie were executed because they were the first rappers to code their own MySpace html and add background photos. Glenn knows all about this...I'm pretty sure he's working on a screenplay.

Bisexual...and a little inappropriate for a ski/ride MB...consider yourself warned. Point him out, bro...I'll slap him up for ya Nick... Rob, do you ever tell the truth? Ever?

Ha, Doug, I only tell you this 'cause I'm lookin' out for you as a friend, but the only thing more gay than white boy gangatah hand signs are asking what they mean. (Edit: and just FYI, the boy on the left is showing four fingers; the chick in the middle is showing an 'x' or 'times' sign; and, the boy on the right has nine fingers up...or 4bi9.)

Thought I'd show off our Racewax.com Ski Team vests that just arrived...our super fast German guy (who is also a PASR member) just happens to work in the fashion industry in NYC and designed them from scratch along the lines of the Spyder Insulators... Forgive me for saying so, Dr. D, but they sure do blow away your t-shirts We're going to try and schedule a quick meeting at Sno late in the summer to hand them out...I have Dr. D's, Metzy's, and Andrea's, if any of you want to get it earlier.

Ha, the rough spots are pretty far from the coffee plantations...I don't know which plantation it is that they own, but there's a pretty good chance it's one of the Kona farms. Kona is on the Big Island and there's not one rough spot on the entire Big Island. Right! I totally forgot about that. Plus, Don Ho (Tiny Bubbles) just died last week, I think. Maybe he was upset about that...

Hey, Bode's cousin had a terrible childhood being bounced back in forth between homes in the White Mountains of NH and the family coffee plantation on Hawaii. Just think about how shitty your life would have been having to suffer months on end in the ghettos of Hawaii, with nothing to do but surf and survive on macadamia nuts.

I haven't seen any additional stories regarding the specifics, but if it's the same deal as Koz---which it seems it is---then Bode will have no ties at all to the US Ski Team, except for, as you mentioned, Olympic and World Championship spots. Koz didn't use a US "spot" for regular World Cups. Also, she could wear whatever speed suit (uniform) she wanted. And, if you recall, her ex-teammates were friendly with her on race days, but shared no course reports. The hardest thing for Koz was the travel, but Bode has a lot more money than Koz did. She had to raise $200,000/yr., but sponsors will line up to take care of Bode, plus he has a childhood friend to drive his 'bus'. Bode wasn't too big on inspections and course reports, so he seems the perfect candidate for going solo. And he doesn't believe in coaching, so no loss there. This arangement seems so perfect that it's hard to understand why he didn't do it sooner, before he'd pissed off everyone with his tantrums. Heck, every once in a while I might cheer for the little cousin of a cop killer...

No, I think it's a horrible tragedy, especially for the kids of the murdered cop.

PARK CITY, Utah - Former Olympic medalist and World Cup champion Bode Miller is leaving the U.S. ski team, ending his contentious relationship with the federation that oversees the sport in this country. The fiercely independent Miller has been at odds with the association for years, and there long had been rumblings that he would leave the team. U.S. officials have been unhappy with Miller