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That'd be great. We're heading up on Monday for our passes and maybe score a new moose hat

Well, actually, you didn't say you were having fun 'now did you'? You said it sucked ass, or something. I'm not sure about the entire sucking ass thing. It's bad, right? Or is it really, really good? Sorry to be so confusing about the 70 seconds and 500 vert. It's a reference to racing. There are indeed a bunch of people on this MB that would trade a week at JH to lay down two perfect runs in a PA Cup, or an ASRA, or whatever else. Hard to understand? That's fair. But what if you just happened to nail an off-axis 1440 dinner roll off a BB kicker, just after a TGR film crew had set up? And they got you from six angles and they needed a filler for the opening sequence of their next film? That's just a guess at what may or may not be important to you. But maybe you get my point.

You can't seem to figure out what nefarious plan they have, but there sure must be one. Is there any mention of donkey turds on the website? That could hold a clue to your conspiracy theory. Just follow the turds, Rob...you'll find it... Bullsh*t. You must be on drugs, riderossi. I heard there were demolition crews and moving vans. (Thanks for the update riderossi... )

But you were still having more fun than you are right now.

A lot of people on this MB would trade a free week at Jackson Hole in exchange for 70 seconds of perfect skiing that covers less than 500 feet of vert.

Yeah, you have to Mapquest it from Honesdale...much shorter, but there are some spots you can get behind a farmer...I'd never do 84/87 again, it's just way too many miles. btw, it's Honesdale to Highmount...

I'll be there Friday...

Rob and Old Geezer are on the same page: both are full of crap. Yeah, they are building new lodges and wave pools in order to pull out the lifts and sell it (in 10 years) for housing lots. Yeah, it's a big conspiracy. How much more idiotic can you be? If Rob and Old Geezer would like to post one single thing Carlson has ever done to indicate he wants to do anything but run a succesful resort, LET'S HEAR IT. But neither of you can offer one shred of evidence. You're just a couple of haters that lost. Now Rob's version is a bunch of "if business is bad, then..." Now you want to slander Mr. Carlson? Denis Carlson was exonerated and the judge chided the prosecution for bringing trumped up charges against him. The Feds spent thousands of taxpayer dollars to bring charges that were full of holes. It was a ploy to try and force Carlson to tesify against a very corrupt city treasurer. But Carlson wouldn't lie about the situation. He cooperated fully and the judge thanked him for his testimony. Read the transcript yourself. Mr. Carlson did absolutely NOTHING illegal or in any way shady. He's just a nice guy that let someone use his vacation condo and even the Feds found no payment or favor in return. And, Rob, has it sunk into your thick head that Snowtime bought then FLIPPED Windham? They didn't want to run it and they didn't want to run Montage. Keep shooting your mouth off about slopes, feasibilty, and demographics! The mountain was purchased by a race dad who has a passion for skiing. Get over it. We won and you people lost. *edited for personal attacks*

Ha, but then you'll have the problem of keeping me and Sno from racing from your kitchen, through your den, and off your deck. You'll have ruts in your living room carpet...but if you can live with it...

You know that people ski/ride for free on their b'day at Belleayre...

One final thought... People like Washo and other anti-Sno Mountain sale people have come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories about the motivation of Sno Mountain LLC. They are so bitter from their loss, that some have continued to write slanderous letters to the T-T editors, as well as come here to attempt to trash the reputation of Mr. Carlson. Montage wasn't purchased to chop it up and subdivide it. It wasn't purchased to "flip" it, the way Snowtime flipped Windham. Montage was purchased by someone not unlike a lot of us on this MB: a dad of a racer that has his own passion for skiing. Anything else is bullshit, plain and simple. I have no ties to Sno Mountain, other than as a customer, but attacking the integrity of the Carlson family will have you answering to me and, hopefully, the rest of the people that believe in the spirit of Pennsylvania Ski and Ride.

Yep, they could have ripped out the lifts, subdivided, and sold it for much, much more. Poor Lackawanna County non-skiers. I feel so bad for them. The idiots bitched when they found out they were losing a million dollars a year, then they bitched that it was sold at a lower price because it had to be maintained as a ski area. You poor suckers can't win!

IDK, Kragan, but I will add to it that the case against Mr. Carlson involved one thing: he allowed Philadelphia City Treasurer Corey Kemp to stay at his vacation condo. Period. The feds threw Mr. Carlson's name into the trash as part of a sweeping indictment of everyone involved with a corrupt city treasurer. Mr. Carlson did NOTHING wrong. He was being a nice guy. He expected nothing in return and he received nothing in return. And that's why cops need to be careful; they have all the power in the world on their side and can ruin innocent people when they are wreckless with indictments. Ever hear the term "You can indict a ham sandwich"? That's a refernce to how easy it is to get an indictment. Only the prosecution gives evidence to the Grand Jury. It's totally one-sided. Mr. Carslon was clearly shown to be not guilty during trial. Yep! And according to the current commissioners, the previous administration had faked the books to show Montage had been turning small profits, when it had actually been losing money all along.

There are some interesting, steep, but not super-long headwalls at Belleayre. Any one of them beat a bumped up Hellgate with 200 people on it, IMO. But to each his own. I hate Hunter because of some of the locals, but mostly because of the NYC vibe. Belleayre is like skiing in a different era...Hunter is like skiing with someone barging on your ski tails all day. Anyone that likes Hunter and bypasses Belleayre should also give Plattekill a shot...it's a little like the MRG of the Catskills.

First off: Bullshit. The corrupt Philly cops misled the Feds ALL THE WAY TO A COMPLETE ACQITTAL. And, yes, we all knew this. Jesus Christ, if you have a large company and some asshead in accounting does something wrong, yet you are fully exonerated, you shouldn't allowed to invest in a ski area? Should we check your background before you buy a lift ticket? How f*cking un-American to have someone FULLY exonerated in a court of law, then say he shouldn't be allowed to SAVE a failing ski resort. Commissioner Washo's motivation was only to stand in the way of anything the majority commissioners proposed. Washo voted against the sale of Montage, just like he voted against the veterans memorial...yet he showed up for the grand opening. What a dickhead. That's the kind of person you align yourself with? Thin margin? Wrong! Dead wrong. You have some personal gripe (either real or imagined), because a post verdict survey showed the government's case was lost due to "shoddy and overreaching investigation" that was just "headhunting". You're an expert on this with a strong opinion, yet you don't even know the outcome of the case! Oh, and let me quote you: "They facilitated the growth of the mountain as part of a bigger plan to increasing economic development in that particular location, and it worked well." Now let me educate you about Montage: They were losing a MILLION DOLLARS a year for the county. The top to bottom lift ran three days in the last two years. Broken pipes caused the entire left side of the mountain to be shut down for the last two years. Taxpayers that were saddled with double-digit property tax increases wanted to shut down Montage. Snowmakers were down to just 23 working guns (instead of a needed 150 guns). Good employees were leaving for better pay and more secure jobs. All this winter, we'll be skiing/boarding and having a blast while losers like Washo and haters like you are off finding some other project to spread sunshine over. Bottom line: we WON.

It's nothing new; Belleayre has never been very good at updating their website. If someone doesn't have a really good reason to be in the office, nothing gets updated.

So the Scranton Times-Tribune editorial staff did everything in their power to block the sale of Montage to Sno Mountain LLC. They wrote ENDLESS editorials, siding with scumbag Washo and calling it a back room deal, despite knowing it was not. The editors knew for a fact that the commissioners voted to allow Cordaro to negotiate the deal privately, then turned around and called it illegal. The editors of the failing newspaper, which had to fire half it's staff because it folded one of it's editions and is broke, just didn't understand that small ski areas have been going out of business at an increasing rate and it was just short of a miracle that Montage was saved by SM LLC. So we thank the snow gods that the newspaper failed. They couldn't convince the people of Lackawanna that losing a million dollars a year was a good thing. The newspaper lied and slandered honest people, all with the supposed protection of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Which brings me to the funny part, as the Times-Tribune published a self-congratulatory article today regarding national awards it won for editorials about "the Lackawanna County commissioners

I think he was hoping to start another revolution in Cuba. The CB tubers will be a little safer this year, I think...

You can steal their girlfriends (except 'Dude's), dent their cars (except Jeff's), call their mommas fat (except MC's), but they sure are touchy if they think you're mocking their snowmaking efforts. And their you go: Lib again is looking to be Mod of the Month

Yeah, duh...correction: 5. Even if we rushed, we'd still be on the sixth lift ride up as it hit an hour.

Yeah, Lake Louise has been hosting the North American speed event openers for a few years. Bode won it in Nov. '04, which was the years he won all disciplines in the shortest span of time. Fritz "The Cat" Strobl won it last year.

Not to pick a fight, but I'm wondering if it was any of the top racers drifted over and you "housed" them, or if you "housed" a couple of weekenders? I mean, it'd be sort of funny if the top racers bragged about "housing" the park rats on a race course when it turned out to be a couple of random kids from the Darkside. It'd be great if they got Tomba to compete.

You two guys have been fighting for over a week. It's going to be a f*cked up winter if it keeps up.

Man, you're good. You ever consider being in charge of the stats on here?