Johnny Law

That's a definite sick bird ! Enjoy dude may it be bottomless blower.

I know right they posted pictures with actual pow skiing whereas this is totally sick bird nothingness bullshit....circle. jerk

There should be no law regarding helmets, if you don't want to wear one that's fine. However its a pretty god damn good idea to protect your brain with some plastic and kevlar while traveling at 40mph 20ft away from 100's of very hard trees. Shit's nice for when an edge gives and you slide out or if a ski puts you down. The chair lift thing is ridiculous, I love that the same peeps who are all self responsibility on the VT thread are the same ones who can't sit on a moving coach without falling off. If you ever noticed it sits of the hanger at an angle as well. Don't fuck around on the chair and you'll be just fine.

Because in every major study as many people fall off the lift with the bar down as up. If you can't ride a moving couch without falling off.....shit homey life's going to be real tough. Lots of places don't even have bars, Alta has no bars and yet somehow everyone manages to stay seated on the lift.......When it comes around you sit down, when it gets to the top you stand up....sounds so difficult

SAR in the EC is Stowe Mountain Rescue, big dogs, real professionals, they have the helicopter. You only see these guys in big problems or around Stowe. Keene Valley Hose and Ladder Wilderness Response team, not as big as SMR but they have alot of real legit professionals. New Hampshire Fish and Game has some kind of team as well. The rest is a loose consortium of randoms who like to do good things in life. Regardless all of them are volunteers with the possible exception of the main dude at SMR. They work with National Forest service, RMC, AMC, ADK rangers and about a billion other groups, AVSAR, Mt Rescue Service, New England K-9, Mt. W Volunteer Ski Patrol, Upper Valley Wilderness Response Team, Pemigewasset Valley SAR. All of them with the exception of a few individuals are volunteers who have a wide variety of other jobs and for some reason like to help others. As far as I know they do not really complain rather its the state and towns who have to pay for there work that are salty.

I don't think I've ever had that problem....is this some kind of issue I've just somehow missed.....runners are weird

First of all we are talking like less than a dollar on a 90 some odd dollar ticket. Second of all this isn't about keeping people out of trouble its about paying for it. Joey's are going to do what joey's do. Lastly a distinction has to be made between peeps leaving the resort and BC skiers doing their thing in a dangerous environment. Charging prepared people who run into trouble on the rock pile or Marcy cone is just stupid, these are dangerous environments in which every possible problem cannot be planned for. A highly experienced tourer on TGR ran into serious trouble on the rock pile when first gen dyna inserts failed, that ain't something you can prepare for. He needed the helicopter and that shit ain't cheap but I don't see why he should be paying some kind of fine. The absolute most important thing is that people not be killed or injured, the cost is minor and secondary. All you hardcore take care of yourself types I bet don't tour and don't understand how fucking fast this shit can turn on you through no fault of your own. Puffery......

So assuming you don't get home delivery of the Rutland Herald, its the NY times of VT LOL, a mother fuck ton of people got lost at Killy and required professional extraction. It was mostly over Christmas break and was certainly helped by the truly excellent base but around 22 people had to get pulled out of the woods in two weekends. Every single one of them was non-VT, Massholes, CT, NJ, NY. Well this pissed alot of people off and in response came a VT house bill that would; 1. ski resorts liable for the rescue of a skier that has left its boundaries and needs rescue. 2. ski resorts can add a fee onto their ticket prices to defray their potential costs 3. making each skier liable for their rescue and allows resorts to then turnaround and try to recover costs from the rescued person. 4. No more than 500$ for skier rescue I don't like this, I know it sucks to pay for stupid fuck heads but if one person dies because they didn't want to be charged $500 than it simply can not be supported. I like EC BC insurance, everybody pays a couple of bucks on each lift ticket, the money goes into a statewide pot to pay for rescues of the mighty joey. Thoughts ?

I didn't even think of that but that's the way to go. Opens up Sidewinder which is a good skiing trail and gets the park people some space as maybe noobs won't be able to see it from the lift. I'm thinking just a big wide straight down the line trail......

Even the night session was good. Rain stopped at 7 and nobody was there.

Good to hear they are doing this the right way. They own alot of land so I think expansion was always the idea, I know I've heard the hotel thing for at least 10 years. A steeper switchback would be the way to go in my opinion, get a real trail designer and have something with some vert but with a double fall line and actual turns. A turnier Dreamweaver or a steeper switchback kinda thing....another noob tube could work out though and they certainly need it.

The thing to remember is this is probably a fire sale of sorts, the people that want it want it cheap with some kind of debt restructuring...well at least that is most likely. Assuming there isn't a bidding war which seems doubtful whomever owns it could get in cheap with favorable debt terms. CB probably has reasonable debt terms, they have consistent revenue over a relatively long period of time, essentially they would get it cheap with cheap money. The question I believe is probably one of existing infrastructure. How old are the lifts and buildings ? Are there major upgrades in the short term ? Were there major upgrades that were recently completed that impact the profitability of the venture (sunk costs). If the sunk costs are good and the money is cheap CB owning Sno could be a good thing that works for everyone. Additionally consolidation certainly seems to the be best way to run ski areas in this modern day if your goal is to make money. I may not be a fan but I don't really care if they make shit tons of money or not.

Good shit, major props to the first time players. Monday nights are better for me next year, I'm interested if there is a spot.

For some odd reason all I can think of is the theme from Shaft Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine to all the chicks? (Toast!) You're damn right Who is the man that would risk his neck for his brother man? (Toast!) Can ya dig it? Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about (Toast!) Right on You see this cat Toast is a bad mother-- (Shut your mouth) But I'm talkin' about Toast (Then we can dig it) He's a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman Too bad Issac Hayes is dead I think we could make this work.....

I hope he decides not to, only because it would be very funny. Everyone is like Doug please come back and he's all nah Golden Corral, Poker, JDAIP, Doug Lyfe...etc etc

No we can't hence the posts. Doug is cool and if he wants to pose here he should do so end of story. Its always going to be kind of a circle jerk and that's fine but sometimes the mob mentality gets stupid. Two life lessons that always apply 1. Try not to be a cunt 2. Be kind for everyone you meet if fighting a difficult battle

FKNA sick dude, super jealous. +1 for the Kinco's

Denton has the big bopper in PA, its a triple diamond !!!!!!!!! Seriously though it is rather steep 35ish pushing 40 for short spots.

I dont get the doug hate, dude is cool and at the end of the day most of the shit talkers encourage his shit by constantly bitching. Its like a 3 year old you dont tell them to stop for that is what they want, simply ignore it.

Indeed...though in my defense I've haven't paid full price for most of them

178 Stockli Stormriders S. Schmitt version, almost pulled the trigger on the DP but another 29 radius ski for the EC is overkill.

Saddleback is owned by good peeps, threw a shit ton of money into that place as it used to be kind of a shithole. Go to the loaf, the loaf has real above tree line skiing like the Rock Pile. The loaf is now the biggest resort east of the Mississippi and has more vert than taos, sun valley and some CO hills. The loaf's newest expansion on Burnt mtn is essentially a couple hundred acres of glades with no lift, more traversing, some sorta chutes too, excellent playground. Casablanca glades are good and work your traverse skills. False Peak if your cool with living outside the boundaries. Rangeley's best restaurants are The Farmhouse Inn which is Mexican & Steaks and Parkside and Main which is American. Corner Side Grill is good too but spendy, their is a thai restaurant as well which I can't remember the name of which is pretty decent. Lastly gotta ride Muleskinner, its a ME classic.

Feb 22-24 big storm on the models, most QPF in SEPA. 1" to 1/2" total so 6-12" Long way out but I posted it more because it confirms the pattern. NAO will be negative, AO will be negative, EPO negative. with the generally cold weather our chances are about as good as they can get for snow up until maybe mid march.

You could ski 10-20% of Vail, almost entirely the front side shit show. Go to Copper or better yet ski more, get better at skiing and then go to Copper.

For me its like the perfect EC mountain, normally one lift, a small lodge, relatively cheap, good beer, good people and generally not very full. The terrain for the EC is hot shit, steeps, tons of glades and an entire mtn to tour to that is connected to Magic. I'm 1/100,000 owner of that place, I have 1/100th of a share or something LOL