Johnny Law

The first rule of Pow Mow is you do not talk about Pow Mow Seriously though if you discount that place its because you suck as a person and probably at riding too. James and Lightning are pretty ill and James is pretty unflat. Canyons is 9990 and that's it, if you have the skills and the alpentech maps, lift the heal and you'll find a little section of paradise. The lower part of that hill is pretty much like riding at Bromley. Park City/Deer Valley is where you go with your Mom. Snowbasin is a tricky mother fucker, it doesn't get the same kind of snow and is unusually rocky for UT. It is an ill mtn with the nicest bathrooms at 9500ft in the northern hemisphere, the dude who owns it is a first class cock but the slack/touring shit particularly off No Name is tremendous. No one needs to say anything about Bird/Alta. Solly can be a real gem, the lifts are somewhat haphazard but there are little pockets of Solly that are as good as anywhere else with 1/100th the crowd though that is changing. Brighton is the hidden gem of the BCC/LCC, there is some real sweet shit in that neck of the woods without the LCC roid fueled madhouse. If you have a good snow nose you'll find it, additionally the park rats can't traverse for shit so just go a little further and its all yours. This isn't going to be real popular here but Sundance is the shit, particularly if you want to get laid. It is by far the most beautiful of the UT resorts, in the ball park of Aspen Highlands which for my money is top 5. Timp is a gorgeous mtn and all the angles are right. Sundance is quiet like even more so than Pow Mow and it has way more steeps. Far skiers right is a nice 1000vert groomer that is the 40's, on both sides are short tree sections and it ends in a really cool wide coolie. Not alot of terrain but you got it all to yourself. Do not tour on timp, unless its May or you got some serious skills. Take your women to Sundance, have a nice quiet slower type day. You'll get some good riding and awesome views. Then you book a meal in the restaurant for 5:30, you eat sweet food and be romantic. Then when you get back to your crib she'll put your penis in her mouth. Sickbird ! I like to stay in SLC, its cheap, there is more to eat/do and every resort in UT outside of Brian/Beaver is within 50 miles. Get a car and hit them all up but beware of the bee hive state cops, they are one strict bunch.

Dude you should send the paid people a reminder this month. I paid the couple bucks a month or whatever last year but then you sent me a note to cancel, if you don't remind me I probably wont remember. LOL

The facilities are pretty fucking posh though, not Snowbasin bathroom posh but not too far off. I don't remember a lodge like where you could sit with stuff and chill but I'm not a big lodge person. The Pizza place was pretty good all things considered and the bar at the far end has sweet deals on PBR and other hipster shit. I had duck at a really nice place in the village with a slightly anti-Semitic Englishmen, the place was a solid A but I was way too drunk so take that review with a grain of salt. Beaver is a nice place to ski, a little flat (even with the bald spot shit) but still a nice place to ski for sure.

Fill your pockets with candy, don't be above straight up bribery.

Mr. Mojo Risin

Get whatever feels best on your foot, some peeps here go super stiff....I disagree because if you can ride you can ride on two 2x4's with flip flops. Lange is generally pretty low volume, particularly in the toe box. Additionally the first buckle overlap on the majority of lange boots lets alot of air in.The Atomic is narrow across the board. I don't know anything about the solly's other than they have Head's shell extender dealio. I ride on a pair of really comfy 90 flex Superchargers with man fur and pull handles, I can and have spent as much as 5 days straight in them. Occasionally when I get sloppy and in the back seat I'd like a little more stiffness to leg it out but 99.9% of time 90 flex is good for me.

A helmet would have held his smashed noggin together in one place for easy clean up, thats about it. South Chute is 600 ft of rock in January let alone in Nov. Also I am an expert on everything including quantum entanglement and the best diner in Berks for pancakes. Lastly I don't see how Nick was being a dick, he's right in that there are maybe 3 people who know how skins even work and there are maybe 10 people here with any real avy knowledge. People want to separate themselves say I could never make such a blatant error or this guy had a death wish but lets be frank they don't have the first fucking clue what they are talking about. The people with knowledge and who actually tour are telling you its alot more complicated than that. If you think you got your shit on lock go out and tour. Watch how quick random shit can turn dangerous before you even realize what is going on. I've had my brushes with disaster and it was straight up luck shit didn't go worse. You can mitigate and you can plan but there are way too many variables to have everything figured out. Jordan is playing in bigger mtns and from what we all can tell is a very knowledgeable and accomplished tourer and if I remember right he had a trip go bad last year too.

He certainly isn't without fault, I have a tough time figuring out the no gear thing too. I guess what bugs me most is his family, I know he was way committed to them and he failed them. I have a kid who I think is the greatest thing in the world and it changes the way you see potential risks. So with all that I can't see how he missed some pretty basic signs and didn't bring gear. Every time you leave the resort you have a duty to your family that you take all the reasonable precautions so that you can come home safely, for human reasons he didn't this time and unfortunately he had to pay the ultimate price. All that said though snow science is a bogus thing to a certain degree, nobody is an expert, everything is possible. I used to think it was dumb people doing dumb things and it mostly is but on the other side is a group of very highly trained individuals who for various reasons end up dead. Now I think it one of those things that can be mitigated by good solid decision making but ultimately comes down to luck. If you play on that field for long enough shit just happens, shit that frankly humans can't deal with. We make mistakes, we do stupid things that at the time seem of zero consequence, we are ultimately unable to foresee all possibilities regardless of the knowledge we posses, our brains are not wired for this kind of 1/100000 type problem. Sometimes you can do everything right and still end up dead. JP didn't make all the right decisions for sure but none of us do. I smoke, Doug maybe drives like an idiot etc etc humanity is about understanding not condemnation, we should seek knowledge and understanding, not hate or division. Doug when you rip this guy you miss the much larger truth that every mother fucker on this earth does the same kind of shit every fucking day, your just lucky in that it didn't cost you your life.

Its not that strange in the sense that formal avy training isn't that formal. If your dad was a master welder and taught you everything about welding from the time you left the womb what possible purpose could you have for taking TIG 101 other than to secure a piece of paper. Thus dude was around this shit at a very high level since he left Minnesota, he traveled with some of the premiere authorities on snow science who aren't working in labs. That's not to say they made good decisions or shouldn't have brought gear but more to explain why he never took 1 or 2. I took AIARE I&II and they aren't all that formal. I is pretty much how to identify avalanche terrain and the basics of decision making. II is some of the why and more tools to travel in avy terrain. Neither of them are a fail/pass kind of situation, I mean I guess you could fail if you were a total ass or didn't show up but you have to seek this kind of instruction out so I'm not sure why that would be the case. The bigger problem is on the lower end, the vast majority of people don't have any knowledge what so ever and if your playing anywhere in the west you should at least know the basics. Maybe not even a 1 course just pick up a book like staying alive and you'll be in pretty good shape. I like you Doug, Doug lyfe for sure but simply no. I met the guy once in the tram line and a bunch of people I know knew him. One somewhat well, he didn't have any kind of death wish and as of late really toned down the type of skiing he was doing. Millions of people ski were he died every year.

Well the aspects are different which most of the time is 50% of the game. If you understood terrain choice, wind and aspect alone you could ride BC for your entire life with little chance of serious trouble assuming you made the right decisions with that info. The approach was on a east aspect which normally in this type of weather pattern is considered more dangerous, they see it rip and say well its east so that is more dangerous lets go NW and we should be fine. I realize that may sound strange but its not all that unusual, many times when touring your avoiding Northern aspects or certain shoulders or roll overs. Everyone has different levels of risk tolerance, I may decide based on a number of things that it is time to run USA Bowl which is maybe one of the safest places to tour in the world where as you may decide to just switch aspects. Nobody is really right or wrong because 99% of the time nothing happens for reasons that have little to do with avy decision making. Avy science is very immature, as humans we have the ability to say I won't every put myself in avy terrain and thus my exposure to a potential slide is .0001% but most people don't want to ski like that. Lastly and there is no nice way to say this most people are uneducated but due to the rarity of the event by and large most people get away with it.

Its actually kind of small by international standards LOL, there was a year with regular 6-10ft crowns in Switzerland, Mt Cook/Ruapeu in NZ can go redic big and San Juans in Southern CO are extremely active. Kinda strange report in terms of these two things - "They had not consulted the avalanche advisory that morning" and " While ascending out of the Peruvian Cirque they remotely triggered a large avalanche that covered their tracks that they had just made. It's unclear whether they realized they had triggered this large avalanche." I'm not sure how you miss the first avy, they were booting so they aren't moving that fast.....I would take away two things, always always listen to the morning report because it will almost always give you a good heads up on what to look for. Two take 5 seconds and dig a hasty pit at least. The total depth there is maybe 3ft, so two mins of shoveling and you could easily tell its all sitting on shit. EDIT: What a bunch of fucking cock munchers "It was reported that skiers above were triggering snow down into Greeley Bowl (in the unopened Alta ski resort) as the ski patrol and Wasatch Backcountry Rescue were laboring to evacuate the patient who had sustained the fractured femur from an avalanche ride in the Gunsight. This is unacceptable."

We all die, there is nothing scary about death. You, I and every other mofo on this random rock have no fucking idea what happens. It could be nipple deep 2% blower with nothing but perfect titties everywhere. Apparently he was without gear though as you mentioned he was not buried and died from some kind of blunt force injury. Jamie from everything I know was a family man, a guy who when it came time really chilled out and did the family thing. There a good amount of people out there who aren't capable of doing that sort of thing but he was a real chill, level headed guy not some crazy mofo with a death wish. Dude died meadow skipping not dropping 200', there are 10-15 people on this site who could go the same way.

Its so tricky because with lots of snow it tends to work itself out but sometimes it just hangs around for months doing nothing and then bam you got 1/4 mile slides running 10 deep. CO heads tend to know alot more about this as UT doesn't see this kind of depth hoar all the often.

No, just no I was watching it too because I am a nerd as well. The real problem is its early season so people aren't respecting that shit because they are all hungry for powder. The pack is shallow so they want to find spots were you aren't going to dry dock which means shaded, upper elevation. Ground facets are easy to spot and people should have known as the temp gradients and a shallow pack are classic conditions......this shit is going to stick around for awhile which is maybe even worse. RIP JP, you were the man

Congrats Ride, sounds like your in for a hell of a winter...now go buy a split board.

Congrats Moe! Way to realize a dream, the shangri la in the woods is awesome.

11.5 holy shit, either your riding Markers (lol) or I'm really old lol I knew a dude at Bear they called the doctor, made about six trillion jump turns every 100 yards. A serious muscle rider for sure, he ran 916 ninja lab's at 16 across the board......would have been better off bolting his boots directly to the boards.

For along time they didn't think they had enough countries involved, essentially it would have been a NA dominated event. Back in the day I was super into this, I thought it could really help skiing. I think now its less important in a strictly American sense as the explosion in this style of skiing has been at least to me very impressive.

Its funny how long this took, shit like 2002 people started working...good to see they have realized the dream.

That's such a cop out for the vast majority of parents, I'm not saying you personally I don't know you well enough and you seem to get out alot but for most people its an excuse to sit around and be lazy. It certainly gets more difficult but if you really want to do shit you'll find/make time. I have a 2 year old, commute 100 miles to work and ski 60-70 days a year and play hockey 3-4 times a week.

UT, it may not be the most popular place on here but it is by far the most consistent of the continental U.S. places. You haven't skied until you've skied nipple deep 4%. Park city fucking blows, relatively speaking I don't know why so many people go to UT and then fuck the whole thing up by spending time at Park City. 9990 at the Canyons is good but the rest of the hill is pretty shitty, DV is for old ladies. Basin and Pow Mow are worth the trip outside LCC/BCC and Sundance can be.

I heard it was due to some kind of fuck up in the planning stage, apparently they were planning some kind of mid station and then realized it wasn't going to work or it was against the law or something crazy so they had to put in the double turn. Additionally there was some kind of trail/wind issue so the return line was like 9 miles from the haul portion. It also had two piece lift towers which is a big no no in the freeze/thaw VT. Generally you aren't supposed to ride a chair around the bull wheel on a fixed grip because the hanger actually releases so to speak so the added weight can unseat the chair. As far as I know there was no other lift like it in NA. The turns were actually kind of awesome because they were so violent...I only saw someone get tossed once though which was kind of disappointing..... EDIT: Found a great thread about the lift, I was only kind of accurate LOL - http://www.skilifts.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9049

Ahh good catch....regardless it was a glorious chair and perhaps the only one in NA with two left turns on two bull wheels

YOU'LL BE DEAD !!!!! Did you ever see the ass puckering steeps of mouse trap ? Can you imagine the fear that will invade your consciousness as you muster up all your courage to peer over the edge of the gnar that is Bunny Buster ? The Snowdon poma will rip your gonads from your body and add them to the ever growing pile of testicles stolen by its mechanical maw. Such peril, such danger...I weep for the good souls lost to such a mighty lift...... Killington is the BEAST OF THE EAST!!!!!! Seriously, I heard they ripped out the North Ridge chair....super sad, everyone knew it was coming but that may have been the greatest chair in NA if you award points for jocularity and retard design.....

ON3P, thats nice dude, let us know what you think not too many people have a pair.