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Do you know evan resetar? He is riding with us - we will be leaving the CB area (I80) saturday morning.

Nipples Ridge Evanroni Evan Reseter - RTR Me We are going to be there early to play in any snow that might be left over.

there are several combos, its hard to tell, skiers left to center rail, that is one hell of a huck if someone can pull it off.

hahahaha.. good move... TTYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we have passes to CB..

SNOW REPORT: November 21 Be ready for what's outside. Brought to you by GORE-TEX

So the former County employees at Montage should now be recieving there first Sno Mountain Pay check.. Did sno time match the same benefits, 401 plans insurance, vacation time? etc etc Hey here is a question for you? Since every one likes an empty slope but knows that an empty slope is a sign of trouble. What happens if Sno is forced to sell because they can't pay the note? Is the parcel Deed restricted against anyone developing it?

WORD DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know what it is... thanks! Very likely that we will be there thats the ticket!! BB Friday, Bell Sat, ??Sun Can you drive? I'm sleepy. JEAA! Uhhhh I got an extra seat. See if your mom will let you ride with us from CB. I met her at the BC festival last season.

hahahaha, I talked to the Marketing guy for Elk at the Washington DC expo for about 10 minutes. I have nver met a marketing guy with such a dry personality. I asked him a bazillion questions. He basically wasn't even aware that Elk had a park LOL!!! Never heard of PASR and couldn't tell me about any of the racing programs.. It was weird...

Excellent work andy. can't wait for the first transfer, think it is possible? I thought it was 25 rise, but even so, that is a good looking feature.

What is running through thier heads. What are they thinking. Does anyone besides me think that they must be really embarrasssed? I mean the park manager there must be either ready for hari kari or he is so out of touch that he actually believes in his park..

where is jordan? hey dude spread the word, you coming?

hahahaha... I got the king of mexico in my clan.. you know him right? His Highness.. Manual Labor aka nipples......

I heard it was snowing down there today.

uhhhh... word is that the NC VA WV western MD area is looking good for this winter.

Hey! Welcome, I think it is great to have a snow maker on here! Check your PM's!

CB is/was the most active forum on here. I wonder what is running through the heads of CB mgmt. That was a nifty observation!!

As far as we are concerned we are going to Boulder on Friday and everyone who can should also come out for the Premiere at a minimum. If you have not met the staff at BB do yourself a favor and make a point to introduce yourself Friday. we are going up to get our fix, toss soem snow balls or hike.. then get a close up look at all the jibs. talk to the park logic crew, then sit down and watch a great movie on a big screen and then hopefully walk away with some new gear or passes

It's too risky to say that they will just push some snow up for a jib when it is still raining out. We are going with an open mind that we can at a minimum have an awesome snow ball fight. at the max, hike one of the new rails.

THE PREMIERE IS FREE!!!!! There is going to be swag given away, some very nice stuff I might add. They have a huge screen so it is really worth it to go see this movie and hang out and meet the staff there before teh season has them too busy to chat. We are going to be there early afternoon, I am taking several shovels in the event they will let us hike a couple jibs or something. It might be a muddy mess, but it is worth a shot given the alternatives to not going. Combine that with the fact that the ground is still warm and you will have a muddy slushy mess if they try to push anything around. Shovels is the best bet.

Ok... you broke it down point by piont. I was trying to convey a big picture. Let me try again. With 1 million at risk, Sno was hugely motivated to see the sale go through so that they could get started. Now 8 million or thereabouts is at risk. Where and when are we going to see the motivation to recover that? If you type. http://www.skimontage.com you go to the website it doesn't redirect, it seems to have an error on it, but from what I can see it doesn't even mention Sno Mountain. Wouldn't it stand to reason that when they bought montage the also bought the website? I would think that something simple like that would have been implemented from day one as part of thier marketing plan. How many skier visits does PA accommodate? 1 million? Sure, we all here know that happenings at Montage, but what about the average snow persons who are planning for trips this year? Do they know that they are under new management? Do they know that Sno is increasing the snow making power several times over? Water park? Trail Expansions? I wish I could conduct some type of survey and ask "have you heard of Sno Mountain?" It just seems that have had plenty of time to plan on how they were going to get the word out and with all of the delays, I would think that the marketing budget from July to November would have been released all at once in a huge media blitz starting the day after the closing. Now I am going out on a limb that you will no doubtedly saw off. I wonder if there is a marketing plan at all? Why with the original timing of July would there not be? Has any advertisements been released at all? It could be that they got caught up in the battle and forgot the reason they were buying the resort which is to run it as a ski resort and to sell tickets. OR is it possible, that selling tickets and making the resort cash flow is not important to them right now. Which begs the question. Why not put all these improvements in during fair weather. They are targeting a mid-december opening date. Why aren't we being bombarded? OK - just to take thier own community synopsis and tie into my long term prediction and guess of the motivation of the buyer. I am copying and bolding an interesting blurb. In other words, when talking about the Sno community, why is it important to mention the housing prices 1 mile away? It is well known that Montage is not a destination resort. The Sno Mountain Community description is ultra focused on ammenities that would be interesting to a home buyer not a weekend skier.

yeah -- it looking tosuck again for the poconos

hahahaha.... I hadn't noticed that.. Welcome to PASR!! Careful about saying anything negative about that place up that way.. I get needlessly blasted on a regular basis for expressing opinions about sno

WOW Why do you get so hostile over my posts, especially when I make it clear that I am happy and want to see the that place ran as a ski resort for ever. You act as if no one is entitled to have an opinion. You act as though no one can express thier thoughts on anything that you disagree with. What is up with that? This board was founded on the principal to allow people to be open. Can't you go along with that? Apparently I can't express an opinion without you digging up the past in an eye raising hostile manner. Thats a shame. Haven't you ever heard the expression "lets agree to disagree"? It's not so much IN MY OPINION of what they have done, it is what they haven't done. Now. I'll try to keep this short. It's hard to express my feelings in words, but I'll try. Remember the emphasis on the 1 million they spent during the due diligence and/or feasibility study? I can only speak from experience that to the best of my knowledge builders don't go on and on about how much they have spent as a reason for the deal to have to go through. Seems to me that they were really worried about losing that money if the sale did not close. OK. now add another 5 million cash? or is it a banks money? Initial improvements to date; Snow guns, piping, some cursory repairs. Maybe another 2 million? So to date they have at least 8 tied up. They should be 8 times more worried than when they had just 1million out of pocket. Correct me where I am wrong. Lackawana carried a 9m debt and lost 1m last year, correct? Any idea of what thier ticket sales/visits were last year? NOW.. Montage historically has not balanced its books since when? Has that resort ever had a year in the black? We know that recently it has operated in the red. Why? Simple answer, not enough ticket sales... OK.. they have had since July to put together a marketing plan to sell tickets. That is a lot of time. These are very smart people, certainly there is a business plan with a focus on marketing. Now, I am not up in the scranton area, but I would think that by now there would be some media buzz heard all the way down here. It could be that they have too much work to do yet and they don't dare advertise something they can't deliver. Even so, I would think that there would be press releases like what CB does to get the hype rolling, Bill Boards, Coupons, Discount lift tickets at every ski shop, group sales people at every ski club meeting. How about a Mountain Rep here on PASR pumping it up? Something. Maybe they are in the New York Times, Inquirer and on TV and have a zillion billboards up and I am totally wrong I seems to me that it has been eerily quiet. Hey, maybe this groups doesn't care, this is just a fancy expensive playground to call there own. Who really knows? So now, when someone comes on this board and reiterates what I have basically thought all along, I decided to chime in. What is the matter with that? If anything, you might consider it a good thing, because if Carlson or any of his henchman are reading this and I am way out in left field, don't you think that it would motivate him just a little bit to solidify Sno Mountains long term plans to always remain a ski resort? PEACE!

What is really funny is how lame the mods are that changed the date in my post. I typed 12/25 as a joke.. not 12/15

Shadows I got your back..... naaa the best post was the one where he said he wasn't going to post anymore.. that was funny! EDIT: oh yeah.... CB and thier press releases, what a bunch of ..................