I don't mind the slower lifts. It gives me time to chill out. Honestly, I think that at CB, the only thing the high speed lifts do is get more people to the top faster. Only the people don't go down too fast, thereby clogging the runs. It was 605 for my pass, bought it last week. I agonized over whether to get Elk or CB and I had to pick Elk. I'd rather drive farther and pay more to have better experience. I think the terrain at Elk is more challenging than CB, you have less One Timers... and the runs are longer.