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I wonder if they will survive the rain - any word?

Good to know. I may just hit JFBB then does a Mon-Friday pass cover the friday after thanksgiving? It's kind of a trade off though, I'd be going with my girlfriend, we both have passes to belleayre but I have the only pass to JFBB so its $30 on her ticket vs $30 for the trip up to belleayre and back, its kind of a wash moneywise, more time in a car to Belleayre but possibly more terrain open. It is a week away so who knows what the conditions will be.

You just compared what you MAY have open this weekend to what Mount Snow has HAD open. Sure you MAY have more open than they HAVE had open, but if you guys can make snow than they will as well, so they will have even more open. And they have a park on a separate peak with a separate lift to keep those guys over there, a seperate beginner area, an intermediate top to bottom trail, and an advanced top to bottom trail. Each trail has its own lift to keep lift lines short, all the snow has come from fan guns which is better quality, and all the runs are top to bottom. Plus two more top to bottom trails opening for the weekend, I think snow quality, variety, and lift lines are all in Mount Snows favor. Killington will be better in January, you won't go to Mount Snow mid winter if you have it right there next to you, but get some different trails in now and have a better weekend than going to Killington. You'll have all winter to try those trails out.

I would say JFBB is prob not worth it unless you are jibbing. I'm skipping this weekend, and starting thanksgiving at Belleayre, and hopefully I won't miss a week until April.

Wow the 2nd, 4th, and last pictures are great. The video is damn good too, good work.

I think Killington (if open) will be brutally crowded, and certaintly less terrain. Also only one lift most likely, where as at Mount Snow you have 3. I wouldn't be suprised if they had deer run or snowdance open. If killington gets a window to make more snow, so will Mount Snow, and Mount Snow has a lot more terrain under full fan gun coverage to open. Once they max out that terrain they will go back to the slower air/water guns and Killington will be opening stuff faster since they have more water, but while it is fan guns vs old style, Mount Snow is going to win. Plus, you have all season to go to killington if you have a house, try something different for a weekend when you know it will be superior.

Your going to have to change your name to JFBB skier if you are now in their marketing, nice shot though thats awesome

Hey, whats the procedure to pick up a pass you bought online pre-season? I've never gotten a pass there before so do I just show up and tell them my name with an ID and take a picture like at Mountain Creek? Is there a wait or is any day a good one?

Theres no way its 300 vert, the mountain is only like 500 and the map is totally skewed, I'm telling you if its 100 thats it maybe. Its kind of like 4 15 foot drops and then totally flat sections where they put rails.

This is my take: 1) I'll never go to any of their resorts now, just on principle. When I travel I spend 95% or more percent of my time free riding, but just on principle, and with so many other choices, I'm out. 2) I also agree jumps are much safer to the riders and skiers using them than rails. I've gotten hurt so many more times on rails, but it is always break a nose, or a wrist, or hit your tailbone, smack your head. Generally those injuries don't get reported to the mountain. If you get hurt on a jump, it happens a lot less often but it is probably more catastrophic. Death, concussion, serious bone break, neck injury - but at a much lower frequency than rails. I think anyone who knows what they are doing would agree with that. Unless you are spinning, a jump is basically go fast enough to clear the knuckle and you are safe. If you are spinning you can catch an edge and hit your head or break and arm and I've seen that happen, but its not bad. On a rail, you could do it perfectly and if the kid before you nicked the box top you can catch an edge and hit your head completely out of the blue. (Or if you are at camelback and there is a screw head sticking up through the plastic ARGH) 3) However this isn't about the safety of the rider and skier using the jump, it is about the people in the way. Just read it they want to "protect the safety of our guests" by guests they mean non park riders, if they wanted to protect the park rats they wouldn't be investing in new crazier rails. The way I see it, the danger zone for guests and rails is incredibly small, and there are few blind spots. For jumps the danger zone is basically the entire jump's deck and landing, and the whole landing is a blind spot. In our engineering classes they always tell us to solve the "real problem" and not the "supposed problem", the supposed problem here is that people are getting hurt in the park - and there will be lawsuits. The real problem is that there are a lot of people uneducated about park safety in the park. A real solution would be to have park passes, and not with little videos before hand, but an hour or two class with a test to get a pass. That would eliminate a lot of injuries - but it costs too much. Instead they eliminate the jumps which elminates the costs of making and grooming them, while getting rid of the possibility of a lawsuit and also giving them free PR. So its spend a lot of money to make jumps safe, versus save money and get free PR while screwing the people interested in learning how to jump. It has nothing to do with safety, only money. --Oh and I believe Colorado has a law against sueing the mountains except in cases of extreme negligence but I believe that would be hard to pass in PA, our economy doesn't depend on these resorts like CO depends onthe tourism out there.

I would say its a 50 foot vertical drop on a 350 foot horizontal, maybe like 10 degrees. It is flatter than the bunny hill at Mountain Creek, Mount Snow, and others. However it is PERFECT for a hikeable park. Just look at the pictures, it is at flat as it looks. You can get enough speed to do all the features but thats it - but thats all you need. It would also be impossible to straight line it right now because of everyone hiking. But for what it is, mad props.

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I'm with Ski on this one. My dad is super laid back, I've never seen him yell at anyone for anything - unless its someone fucking with my brother and I. Theres just no way. And then he comes and gives you crap about, thats low.

Damn I'm so f'ed now. I'm heading up to Belleayre area but I didn't think they would make it so I don't have my gear at school I didn't bother getting it last weekend. FUCK.

And my room mate tells me it is in a skate video he owns.

I never thought it was a lack of technical talent, its a lack of consistantly updating (JFBB and MC, Bear do a better job of updating than most) and just bad taste when designing the site.

ha no they are not yet

I changed my pass to JFBB 100% because of the length of the season. They certaintly had the longest season for park south of Vermont.. And last year when I went to Mount Snow mid january I thought JFBB's park beat down Mount Snow's handily. And that was when I wasn't a pass holder for JFBB, so no fanboyisms.

I never .... EVER ... use sarcasm. Especially online.

They make several. The draft is their jib board, its softer and it is a twin. The mystic is more of a power park board, great on jumps, pipe, and has great pop going into rails. Harder to press on rails if you are into that, but otherwise I think it is a better deal than the draft. There is one in between the two I can picture it in my head but the name escapes me, I'd jump to the Mystic if you want an all around board. If you want just park, are you a rail rider or jump rider? If jumps are your focus, the mystic is it, if rails, the draft. If both, the mystic so long as you don't mind trashing it on a rail. Personally I don't use my more expensive boards on rails much, I usually get like a mystic, use it for 2-3 years free riding/jumps, then buy a new all around board and make my old one my rail board until it breaks. Not that it never goes on a rail, but I have one for early season/late season/hiking a rail and one for everything else.We dropped Neversummer at our shop, they didn't sell at all and their rep was a ghost we never saw him.

flag flag flag flag flag, seriously dude, rome flag is only option out of those for what you are saying. If you said 70% park 30% mountain it'd be teh slash. Don't bother with the forum, you'd rather have the Rome. Arbor's are better than rome but if you have a rome pro form get the rome you won't be disappointed. At my shop, all the guys ride GNU, Arbor, and Rome. We get pro forms from every brand but thats what we get every time. Arbor Mystic, GNU Altered Genetics, and Rome Anthemn are the 3 best boards, and the flag is the wider version of the Anthemn, so I wouldn't put anything else in that league.

I've got my fingers crossed that we got the warm weather up front, and its going to get solidly cold for a while here, I can almost taste winter the last few days.

Ha that just made my day. Do all MechE's have pride in it? I thought it was just the guys at my school being overly nerdy about it. ... Alright back to studying for my Dynamics exam at 2, great.

I'd definitely hit it, I'll probably only get to blue once or twice this year so I'll hit it at the end of the day if they clip my ticket what do I care? Its not like its my season pass.

Good call on Janes lane going back to free ride, I was saying that all year. They only fit like 5 features on it, and it was a good trail otherwise. There are other places to fit little hikeable boxes like that, they don't even need to be on trail, just an area of snow with like 10 foot of vertical drop is enough.