Glenn

I haven't ridden a mange board but I can answer your questionl. A shorter effective edge will always provide more grip (maybe not noticeable) because there is more weight per length of edge on the snow. Thats the whole point of the magne traction, reduce the effective edge on the snow so what edge is there bites more. Usually the shorter a board is, the softer the flex will get. I'm pretty sure Lib-tech made their magne boards to ride similar to other boards in those size ranges. So if you like your 164, then you probably want something in that range. Or if the 158 is better there. Same stuff as usual, longer boards are nice in powder, stiffer boards are nice for stomping big jumps and for carving hard. Sorry I don't have any first hand experience. Pyro boarder has a mange board and DH has ridden them. If you don't get responses here you should PM either of them.

Real Player? As 'kitten would say "ugh".

Hopefully it fits since you didn't try it on before purchase.

It's also against the skier code to stand in blind spots behind jumps and cliffs. I'm not sure which one takes precedent.

I hope you made it to the mountain...

Cool stuff. I've hike marble and seen the old lift tower foundations. Neat hearing the history behind it all.

Self preservation makes your brain work faster than you thought it could. Start committing and pointing the tips and the rest will fall into place. Well, and a few tumbles. I didn't read the whole novel but I did check out the pics. Thanks for the TR.

Method, in CO inherent natural and man made risks involved with skiing/riding are the responsibility of the rider. Trees, snow making equipment, rocks, cliffs, lift towers etc. In PA they don't have that kind of protection for ski areas. Since it's not a true wilderness area, it's on the ski area to make things resonably safe. There is a pretty high level of expected saftey in day to day life. Skiing is way riskier than walking through a mall, but the law sees little difference. Unless specific legislation is made to protect and encourage high risk activities like skiing, than businesses will be caught in a balancing act between attracting customers and covering their liabilites.

I like the first 2 . Oh, and the mountain doesn't look too shabby either.

This thread just got good.

Just wondering if you took your everyday skis into the woods, had a beater pair, or just watched from the sidelines with the camera?

Sorry your son got hurt. Park is all about experimenting. It's also about progression, which means starting small. Just because you can slay diamond runs doesn't mean you can slay the expert park. It's also about taking hard falls. Sometimes you shake it off, sometimes you recoup for a day/week/month/year.

My salomon Maori's are sweet. After 100+ days the water proofing is starting to go and I need to seperate the lining at night so they dry out, other than that they are still in great shape. I wear them probably 6-8 hours every day right now, with no aches or pains. The lacing system salomon has is super awesome. I laced them yesterday with mittens on and they laced up just as well as anything else. Two lock off zones and actual laces, not boa chords to break. I've never had a pair of 32's on my feet so I don't know how they compare. I boot these boots at the loft, which is in your neighborhood.

Yikes coverage looks a bit sketchy in those trees. That line under the lift where the snowboarders are floundering looks fun if you got a big snowfall.

Well I suppose it's all opinion but... I've never had a need for one neither has virtually every skier/rider in PA, and virtually everywhere else in the country when sking/riding inbounds. I carry everything I need in pockets, and it's not a lot. You aren't in the wilderness. I've got zippers on all my clothing, and have never felt the need to carry around an extra layer just in case. Maybe 2 or 3 times EVER have I gone back to my car for layer adjustment. You're not Jamie Pierre, and even if you think you are, there are no 200 footers to warrant a padded backpack. Besides big camera gear or working as a ski patroller you look rediculous with a pack, because you are rediculous. Travel light. There are facilities and services that the mountain provides (for free), utilize them. So yeah, it's kind of weird and maybe a tiny bit lame that Elk doesn't allow packs. In light of my comments above though, I think it's way more lame that you would boycott the mountain because of the policy. And since you are a risk taker lame that you boycott because they don't allow tree sking, when in reality PA mountains are SUPER lax about rope ducking and O.B. riding in general. Learn how to deal with ski patrol types, and shred the trees. It's better that way since all the goobers won't track them out for you.

As much stuff as I don't like about CB, it's a blast to freeride there weekday mornings. It's a shame 99% of the clientele and even those on this board will never get to experience it.

Just recieved my Beacon as listed. DH even sent it express no extra charge because the post office was closed for the long weekend.

Greggs response got a laugh out of me. Complaining about a backpack policy in PA is pretty weak IMO. I've been in those trees and had a great time. No problems from patrol whatsoever. It seems to me if you are willing to risk dodging trees you would be willing to risk dodging ski patrol.

I'm trying to model my stay here after the early 90's classic "Ski School". The hot tubs are in the plans but it requires jumping a fence and riding back uphill on a sled soaking wet. Pics for sure when it happens. You lead the way.

Bump because I got the first picture working now.

Well I thought I would post another WP GR update. I've pretty much given up on snowboarding for snowboardings sake since it's so lame out here. Instead I've started to use the mountain as a sort of night club exclusively to pick up women. Here I am working my magic on the lift. As you can see from her body language she's feelin it. Here's my friend Lindsy (sorry if I misspelled it!). I tried putting the moves on here seconds before and she hightailed it through the woods over this cliff band. We're cool now though. Ski once said that jeeps pick up chicks, so I told Lindsy any ladies she happens to come upon driving hers around, she can send my way. Here is one of the problems with riding at WP. You have ungroomed runs and glades which are totally lame. Then you have the groomed runs with these huge bright mountains in your way. How is anyone supposed to concentrate on getting super sweet arcs and pushing their gear to the limit with these hideous beasts glaring at them. My buddy Dave wanted to ride some "pillow lines" whatever they are. He says there fun, but it's not for me. They call it snowboarding for a reason, not repeatedly flying through the air. I tried to warn dave but he didn't believe me that with all the new snow avalanche danger is kind of an issue, even inbounds. He set off a slide a few turns later and here he is buried. I'm a super great photog but he's pretty lousy at getting in frame while buried. After the scare he didn't want to take any chances. Here's Dave riding some pretty steep terrain safely with the avalung in. On my way to a major babe hang out I got stuck in a bad spot. Here I am in the bad spot trying to avoid the powder area. And this is my favorite spot on the mountain. It's groomed, it's under the lift so everyone knows how great my skills are, and the mountains aren't nearly as large and ugly. Last night Dave and I went on a renegade mission to slay the park. We had to dodge groomers, duck ropes, and generally risk our jobs, our lives and our limbs. It was worth it though. Here's dave on his first jib of the night. Conducting myself as one should when dealing with the serious matter of "getting after it". Dave jibbing the shed. Dave dismounting the shed. I think thats about all I have for today. Hope you enjoyed! Edit: Oops forgot 1 pic. I've been scoping areas to build shacks since there are so many on this mountain. I thought I would make one of my own. This spot looks pretty good I think. Looks for pics soon...

You won't regret it!

From bartonsville take 209 -> 84 -> 87 -> Local route # (29?) to belleyre. 209 is a nice drive, just as fast if not faster than 287 and you can drive pretty fast if thats your thing, and are comfortable passing on 2 lane roads.

Snowboarders push all the snow to the bottom of the hill. Thats why the bumps are better at Alta.

IDK, I think I agree with Papa about top vs. summit. Top is where the lifts go, which could be the summit, or the summit may be higher. For most (all?) PA mountains summit = top though.