Glenn

I wish... more like I got a resonable explanation and assuming things are better tomorrow, then I guess I don't have any huge issues.

CB's off the hook until tomorrow.

Since I don't have a camera...

I usually don't swear, but what's the fucking point? This morning "upper management" decided that the EXPERT PARK PASS ONLY PARK was too dangerous and had the park crew move the fencing from the top of the trail (where there was some extra pitch to pick up speed) to about 15 feet in front of the pipe (where it's pretty flat). To get a really good first hit you need to skip what would have been the first 2 hits in the pipe. They made the pipe pretty short to start with, now the front portion isn't usable. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but what a let down. The lady checking park passes let me know about the suggestion box in the cafeteria. They might as well have an additional one at the park. After this move, I don't really think rhodo will be anything special. I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't have any gapped lips to the rails. BB - Best park Blue - Best gaper park CB - Most creative marketing team Also, papasteeze for a good laugh check out the tree jib in the LG park.

He's a troll, try to ignore him.

There isn't a specific line, but typically if you arive after other people you take position somewhere behind them. I ride goofy, since I like to drop in and hit my toeside wall first I line up on the right side of the pipe. Most of the regular riders line up on the left. If someone is sitting on the ground they are generally resting OR they will stand up to take their turn. If they are sitting around when you are ready, call your drop and all should be good. Getting cut off AFTER you have started to pick up speed to drop in is way worse then getting "cutoff" in the waiting line. It's personal preference as to how long to wait. If a bunch of people are standing around and you wait to long someone else may call their drop. At the same time, it's not fun getting really close to someone else in the pipe. I like to start my drop in when they are approaching their 3rd hit, so even if they fall, there is still a pretty good space between us.

Mentioned it else where but... Park pass was nice. Seems to be working, and thankfully the park crew guys recognized me so I didn't have to keep showing my pass every time through. I think the real test will be when rhodo opens.

Responding to sexkitten because she put together a coherent post, and I think it's worth responding to, as she will actually listen. I ride everywhere on the mountain sk, and true there are people everywhere that shouldn't be riding what they are. For the most part these people can be managed with a variety of techniques, and using the full width of the course and a set of skills it's not difficult to get down most trails without fear of other people. The park is a totally different story, especially when it comes to blind landings. The stakes ARE higher, and more importantly the frequency of GROSSLY dangerous situations in the park is far greater than outside the park. Watching someone sitting on the backside of a jump is watching a train wreck waiting to happen. An out of control skier on a black, will usually manage their way to the bottom or eject after hitting a bump. Sure there are the freak accidents, but the park problems are more than freak accidents. It's kind of like the difference between running into a deer while driving through the woods (freak accident) and parking a car in the middle of a busy interstate (supreme negligence). If don't have any problem with people going through parks to watch. Just please stay WELL out of the way, and have an idea where out of the way is.

Park passes were good. No one in there that shouldn't be, called drops etc. It's the biggest and best pipe I've ridden but thats not saying much. Skis are totally different than snowboards in the pipe because of body mechanics. I could get 3-4 solid toe side hits, my heel side is pretty weak. I think I'll be hiking it alot this season.

Uh, he answered your question and he didn't insult you how was he being a dick. The trail might not have been closed but I bet the gates were.

Dude, I ride at CB 90% of the time. There is a huge gap between the stuff I was hitting today and what CB has available. For more information see the thread on park rats entitlement and the lack of progressive features and poor setups CB has. At least I had the balls to hit featues. I guess I could say I didn't see you fall, but I didn't see you hit anything either.

Looks like a good time, can't wait to hit it up tomorrow.

Well with the quad being the only lift worth riding (aside from the park lift, and possibly raceway depending on the day/conditions) most of the crowd gets dispersed between a number of trails. While you do have to worry about liftlines (but not if you get there early, leave before the crowds arrive, and ride singles if the normal lline is long) you can still ride on resonably empty trails, if you know how to pick them, and you can ride all the terrain. JF handles the same problem by having tons of lifts, each servicing only a few trails. Alot more chairs go up empty, but if the uphill capacity isn't maxed out then the trails are decently emtpy as well. It's ski area science, store the people in the air not the ground.

Regarding customer service... The lifties are pleasant if you wake them up out of their moron induced coma. They have to deal with so many idiots, I don't blame them for being it foul moods. CB has to stop their lift because people who can't get on/off at least 4 times as much (being extremely generous) as any other resort that I have ridden at. There isn't really an excuse for that attitude that I get from about 30% of the other staff. There are some really great people that work at CB but it's like they can't hire enough good people so they let a bunch of miserable people deal with customers as well. Guest services has NEVER been a pleasant experience for me. Luckily I only deal with them when getting my season pass and once every blue moon for some other random reason. I've had good and bad experiences with the rangers, park crew, the people that drive the snowmobiles around on the mountain during operation (I can't remember if it's snow makers or ski patrol or both), food workers, security, and instructors. I don't buy lift tickets so I don't know what the ticket window people are like. Unfortunately if you have a full day there you are bound to run into one of the "bad" employees. I'd say if every time you visit a mountain you are left with a bad taste in your mouth because of one of the employees, then yes they have bad customer service. It's not all the employees, and it's not even most of them, but ALL employees represent the mountain.

I was only waiting 1-2 minutes in the singles line. When that thing backs up, it's not even worth staying on the mountain.

At the top where the lift is, I just skate to infront of the first feature rather than strapping in and waiting behind the huge crowd of other people on a relatively flat piece of land. They came down from the birches. It was two guys, I don't know much else as I was looking down at my bindings then got hit with two waves of snow, and then the rangers more or less bombed through the park (ok maybe they were doing that pocono shuffle bit). They were halfway down the trail before I even got strapped in, and riding was more important than ratting them out. The guy who buzzed me wasn't a patroller just a snowboard, but he came from birches as well. I know better than to pick a fight with rangers, but I was pretty pissed when the snowboarder buzzed me, like I said if I had a crew I would have probably gave him some serious lip or thrown some punches. I wasn't trying to get stomped by him and his friends though.

Nice feel? It's a right turn then a blind trail merge.

Why do I get the feeling this is a random video you found on the net?

... I think you could make a case for every other group of riders. I've heard comments complaining about why this trial or that trail isn't open yet. People even complaining when it was 60 degrees out. Please don't make gereralizations and pin that kind of pointless complaining on the park riders alone. But apology accepted anyways.

Ben, I'm not sure how else to put this. I don't feel that park riding is above and beyond other disciplines. I like ripping diamonds, cruisers, bump runs... pretty much anything that a mountain opens. There are certain limitations that are out of the control of management, so I won't complain about those. Things like trail conditions when the temps are swinging above and below freezing violently. Also I understand that resorts (especially CB) wants to cater to a variety of customers so not all trails will be bumped. When I'm talking about misused resources I'm talking about a park crew who has their hands tied, the snow is already on the trail, and the money is already spent for lousy jibs. The mountain is already investing that money in the park, but the money/time/effort is wasted because the management doesn't know how to run a terrain park and will not listen to those who can. You can call names all you want, but it simply weakens your argument. I don't feel entitled to anything, if my only desire was a superior terrain park I wouldn't have a season pass to CB. However no other riding discipline at CB is so awful. They have some great cruisers, the steeps are sufficient, and comparable with other diamonds in the area, and the bumps they had last season were lots of fun. The weather is cold now, and I assume they will continue to blow and get the mountain fully open. To reiterate... even when the snow is scarce as it has been, it is MORE than sufficient to have good setups. The difference between a good setup and a bad one in terms of snow is minuscule. If they trail is open, a jib can be setup well. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WEATHER.

So this topic is totally off topic now. Marjies is open and in decent shape depending on the weather that particular day. You can take this argument elsewhere or end it now, doesn't matter to me, but this thread is done.

And imagine if you are any one of those people and the mountain went out of it's way to misuse the resources it allocated towards the terrain you like to ride. Further the misuse of those resources wasn't because of anything other than the manamgent getting involved where they had no idea what was going on. The only analogy that compares is managment telling the race coaches they can only setup gates in a straight line because anything else would be unsafe. The coaches know what they are doing, but the managment would be undermining their efforts. It's hard to screw up the other areas, steeps you groom, bump runs you don't groom, greens you groom, and gates you leave up to the coaches. All of those disiplines are well established and with the exception of the gates, it doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge to make it happen in an acceptable fashion. The park industry is still learning how to build good parks, and to have the best parks available you need to have someone that rides them on a regular basis set them up. It's not rocket science but it does take a bit of finesse.

It was mounted crooked but that was only a minor setback. I think the rails are higher than the sliding surface and they felt super sticky. Everytime I tried to slide it, it was super sketchy. Maybe it just needed to be filed?

Not much to say except I was snowed by 2 rangers in the park today while strapping in. Some other douche "buzzed" me in the same spot. I think if I was rolling with a crew there would have been a brawl.

It would be cool to have a cliff sign, but I'm positive CB doesn't have any.