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Everything out there just looks incredible I think the stash is definitely the number one trail in the country I want to ride.

If I remember the map correctly, it looked like it would actually go right next to the long haul, not necessarily replace it.

Is there a discounted lift ticket to go along with this?

Hit the nail on the head. My spring break is coming up and I can't wait to ride all over the Poconos. Always having to worry about having half the mountain closed when I arrive doesn't exactly make me want to drive to your mountain and spend my money on a product with diminished value.

Well of course. I heard that depending on a combination of Wetbulb, Wind-chill and Terror alert, some weekdays might only have the Meadows lift running. :rofl

Is there really that big of a weather difference between the stevenson and sullivan? Why can you run one but not the other? Aren't they the exact same make/model? I know the top of the stevenson is a little higher, but is that really enough to close it? Am I ever going to stop asking questions about this lift closing?

I'm assuming that everything off trail is crusted and iced to the point its unuseable. I'll be up there next wednesday.

The jersey wearers are going for the gangster thing right? I kind of see it as satirical as the odds of a real "gangster kid from the streets" being on the slopes isn't all that high. I tried it in my room once. I play basketball so I've got a bunch of jerseys, but it didn't really work for me.

What time on Saturday is the boarder cross and how much is entry?

Didn't we have some trouble with this kind of thing in the past?

That really is great to hear. Sno has gone above and beyond in everything possible this year. I'm really proud of them and am glad that I can call it my home mountain. I'll take care of the Buffett considering I've got pretty much every album/song he has ever done.

Wouldn't the mountains have extra funds now because they budgeted money for snowmaking previously and then didn't spend it. So theoretically they should still have whats left of their original snowmaking budget. Even if they don't go above and beyond that, just blow until you spent what you wanted to spend and try to extend your season.

did it have a deck? I definately found a house there last year. Definately one of the most incredible runs I've ever taken.

There it is. Summed up concicely. Please debate this statement (thanks glenn) rather than anything else from here on out in this thread. This whole thing of attacking every word that comes out of papasteeze's mouth is really getting old. His points anc criticisms of CB are valid, the presentation may not be to your liking, but the problems he is pointing out are real. For everyone saying that you choose to go to CB as opposed to other places: To go back to the McDonald's thing, What if there is a Mickey D's accross the street that is pulling shady moves, and the next nearest place to eat is 45 minutes away. Where would you go on a very frequent basis? For many members of this board skiing/boarding is like eating. It is a basic need for us during the winter and we will do most anything to achieve this as much as possible. For an absolute diehard like our members, it is worth putting up with these shady moves to go nearly (if not every) day. Doesn't make it right in any way shape or form, but its why there isn't a total and complete boycott of Camelback. Even from where I sit which is 2 hours away from CB, Its blatenly obvious to me that CB is pulling a lot of cost cutting moves which end up affecting the core customers. This puts a bad taste in my mouth as it must do so for others hearing about it. I can say right now that CB has seen less of my money in the past 2 years because of it. I think its safe to assume that Papasteeze won't spend a dime there next year. I know it doesn't actually mean a whole lot to CB, but its definately a negative in my eyes when their core customers are upset. One of the things that people commented on Elk in another thread was the great local scene they encountered. The times I've been to CB I can't say I encountered any kind of local scene at all. This is important to me in a ski area. I love snowboarding more than anything, and I certainly spend enough money each year for me to do it. For the amount of money I shell out per day, I think my overall experience should be a good one, whether its ripping down a black, jibbing some sweet jibs, or just standing on the snow and taking it all in. Camelback does not give me that warm and fuzzy feeling inside when i'm on the snow there. I think some of it has to do with the negative publicity they get from these moves, the other part of it is something I just can't pin down. Its almost like they feel like they are doing you a favor by simply having snow on ground. This certainly isn't the worst though, and this isn't a pure CB rip. I get the absolute least satisfaction from standing on the snow at Blue. Sorry to all you Booter heads, but the concrete retaining walls and loudspeakers just ruin it for me. wow, that was a long one

Nice.

So where do I get myself some of these? If I could get half price tix to blue I would definitely hit up the boot multiple times over spring break.

That looks incredible. Defiantly one of the biggest rainbow's I've ever seen. I'll have to convince someone to drive me out there in a week or so.

Not lookin to good for me. but because I'm so upset about missing PASR day at the boot and all it entails (skiing down steps, running men, steezy raps, skiing with my hair on fire, and of course the fantastic meet and greet with Mark Miller). I'll just have to have my own PASR day at Tussey and do all that stuff myself.

You would never believe the crazy look I got from my 2 roomates who supposedly snowboard. As of now I think they are pure gapers. Neither of them brought their gear to school!! I broke out the iron, scraper and wax and they looked at me like I was crazy. I honestly couldn't believe it when they asked me what I was doing. Then he dropped the bombshell "Sometimes I take it to a shop before the season and they do it for me. Besides, it comes waxed from the store." : I'll admit I was niave about the whole waxing thing back in the day, but never to the point where I didn't get it done at a shop at least 2 times a year. At this point I can't imagine life before I started waxing my own gear.

Looks like you're going to Touch the Sky, booter mountain style when you go for that one. :rofl

I love going to elk. I really should do it more often. For me at home its only about 45 minutes to an hour away and is totally worth the drive. The only drawback to elk and what keeps me from being a local (other than the fact that Sno is 10 minutes away) is that they have very limited night skiing (never been there at night) and its generally pretty expensive. Gotta love the terrain there though. There are a lot of great cliffs as Glenn mentioned and a million opportunities to ski the trees or just wide open fields of snow. On this one run last year I went with a local through the woods on skier's left of the mountain. We had to have spent a solid 40 minutes riding extremely deep, to the point where we actually stumbled on a house. . I'm disapointed I wasn't there for this powder day. Maybe over spring break? My big thing with elk was that whenever I went I would always skip a day of school (with parent's blessing) to do it. Nothing like leaving early in the morning, passing your highschool twice when you pick up your friend, and then continuing on to Elk.

I was at the last one too. According to the reports there were a lot of PASR's there that night. We really should have met up. Hopefully you guys can organize some kind of cool PASR thing this time around. I won't be back in the Poc's for a while though.

7 Springs is defiantly doable for me. Maybe within the next week or 2. First I've got to worry about exams though.

I sincerely doubt they have to file every rail every day and even so why not do it after they close. Also what about the other places? They all have parks which are open every minute that the hill is. I hate to draw comparisons but over at Boulder 3 guys can completely refresh the Freedom Park, (10 features +-1) in less than half an hour. And this includes time walking, hanging out, and waiting for people to hit stuff (they do it continually all day as most of you know). I'm not saying you need refreshing during the day (it wouldn't hurt) but to say that you need 2 hours taken out of the day to work on the park is completely contradictory to the model shown by all of the other pocono resorts as well as any others outside the area that I have visited. I worked at a golf course for 5 years as a greenskeeper. From sun up to sun down there were people playing golf on that course. To keep someone off of the course for maintenance work is simply unheard of. At 7am play began every day. This is why I was there at 6 every morning and nearly finished with certain jobs by 7. Now I can tell you from experience that cutting 4 greens or re cutting the 18 cups is a much longer job than raking lips and putting up fences. Even if something came up or I was moving slowly that day the people who paid the big bucks to get on the course always had a right of way. I've dodged many a ball, and even had 2 holes cut on one green (didn't get the old hold plugged up yet) when someone had to play through. I would step aside, smile and even help with a lost ball or a green reading. I guess what I'm getting at is that park crew should get there early and get the job done. When you go somewhere and pay a lot of money for something ,(lift tickets are certainly not cheap, especially for a college kid) you expect to get what you paid for. I don't have a season pass to anywhere so every time I drive to a mountain and cringe when I pay the bill for a ticket I always try to get the most for my money. Having a park closed for 2 hours of the day, closing half the mountain (because its too cold), and other such practices make it really hard for me to feel that I am really getting my money's worth that day. I don't want this to be seen as a rant/flame against CB. I like the mountain. Lets call this constructive criticism.

Makes sense I guess, extremely lame though. How come no other mountain does it?