ectobar Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Got out to JF on Sunday for the first time this season. Overal excellent day, good conditions, not so many people. I did have one awkward encounter though. After taking several runs down Thunderbolt, a couple of us decided to explore the trees and the glade trail to the right. After riding it for a short while we shot back out onto the main slope at which point we were stopped by someone working for the mountain. JF_Emp: Stick to the trails boys or we'll have to mark your ticket Me: Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt JFBB have and open terrain policy? JF_Emp: Well,...its suspect. And then proceeded to fumble on somemore words uncomfortably ended with, "just dont get hurt". What was that all about? We did end up going back down the trail and werent hasseled anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 you must have looked like you shouldn't have been in the trees. It's a good practice. think about it, a once or twice a season noob gets themselves wrapped around a tree and pretty soon it will be like camelback with chainlink fences and nobody will be allowed in the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 What was said employee wearing? Or what did he/she look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorovr Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 pretty soon it will be like camelback with chainlink fences and nobody will be allowed in the trees. CBK has chainlink fences!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 CBK has chainlink fences!?!?! Yep and its one of my biggest turnoffs of that place. That and the huge stupid street signs I don't totally hate CB, but it always feels like more of a theme park kind of thing there than a mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever2003 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Doesn't the JFBB website specifically list the thunderbolt glades as open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 What Papasteeze makes a lot of sense and I'm hoping that he's right, but using that same logic wouldn't a patroller or anyone else have the right to mark/clip the ticket of a beginner attempting to ski a trail they aren't ready for yet? Unless Frost puts a rule into effect where they have the right to judge people's skiing in the glades, which they certainly could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 once JF gets sued due to their free domain policy, the policy will change, so they are just being overly cautious, and rightfully so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 What Papasteeze makes a lot of sense and I'm hoping that he's right, but using that same logic wouldn't a patroller or anyone else have the right to mark/clip the ticket of a beginner attempting to ski a trail they aren't ready for yet? At some places they do in the same way at some hills they blow whistles to slow down. i actually like the chain link fences. dont really know why, but i just do yah - it's cool on really crowded days - sort of like roller derby, just bump em off into the fence as you rip on by.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askier87 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 yah - it's cool on really crowded days - sort of like roller derby, just bump em off into the fence as you rip on by.. I did that to a friend of mine when we were skiing there, it was funny as all hell because he got tangled up in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 They shouldn't have glade runs if they are afraid of a noob slamming into a tree. It would be the same as if they hit a tree anywhere else, or just got hurt, for that matter. The trail is a black diamond (although JF doesn't seem to use double black diamonds) and its clearly marked that it is a difficult trail. I mean anybody could in theory access it, noob or not, but if they do so, it is at their own risk. Lawsuits end all the fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 In addition to making the place seem incredibly man made and fake, those fences scare me for some reason. I like riding the very sides of trails to get good snow, but I'd rather stick to the side in VT where theres a huge drop off than next to the fence at CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Given the general quality of the skiers (and riders) at CB on a weekend, the fences can only be a good thing. They are only placed where there are big drops, or rocks off of the trail, or a drop down to another trail, and I think their (serious) injury count would go up significantly without them. Besides, it's much easier to unhook a dumbass New Yorker from a piece of fencing than it is to have to go into the woods after him/her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectobar Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm not saying I'm the cats pajamas or anything, but I'm certainly competent enough to play in some trees. I thought the guy was just trying to flex a lil muscle, and I called him out on it. In the end it wasnt that big a deal. I do agree with the points being made though, it would be a shame to lose access to those areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1erArt Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Maybe the problem was your 'shooting back on to the trail'. If you come out of the trees and hammer someone on the trail - I don't think that would be appreciated. Especially if you come back on the trail just below one of the little headwalls so people on the trail can't see you. I keep telling my son if he is going to do something unexpected look up the trail to be sure it's clear. The glades are great at JF, and if you wrap yourself around a tree its your problem, but if you blind spot a 12 year old on the trail JF is going to have to reconsider the glade policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectobar Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Maybe the problem was your 'shooting back on to the trail'. If you come out of the trees and hammer someone on the trail - I don't think that would be appreciated. Especially if you come back on the trail just below one of the little headwalls so people on the trail can't see you. I keep telling my son if he is going to do something unexpected look up the trail to be sure it's clear. The glades are great at JF, and if you wrap yourself around a tree its your problem, but if you blind spot a 12 year old on the trail JF is going to have to reconsider the glade policy. It was towards the end of the day, and the only other person on the trail was the guy who stopped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hopefully one misinformed person won't give you a bad impression of JF or confuse the policy. It is an Open Domain policy. If there's snow on it, you can go on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1erArt Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 It was pretty quiet Sunday afternoon. But we old guys might go into cardiac arrest if someone skis too fast near us. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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