ColoradoHigh Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I don't get it..... but yeah, conditions do suck at the end of the day, but also, snowboarders like you ruin the snow. Its called scraping off the dust on crust. Quote
Dan- Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Damn, We've been doing it all wrong for so long. Thats how your suppose to snowboard? Quote
toast21602 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I don't get it..... but yeah, conditions do suck at the end of the day, but also, snowboarders like you ruin the snow. Its called scraping off the dust on crust. wow. i dont know what to say.... i think you missed the whole point. Quote
rgrwilco Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) I don't get it..... but yeah, conditions do suck at the end of the day, but also, snowboarders like you ruin the snow. Its called scraping off the dust on crust. really? funny i see more first time skiers doing the pizza the whole way down. seems just as destructive. btw, anyone see the link in the video description? www.eastcoastpowder.com Edited January 22, 2008 by vincent vega Quote
TT C6 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I don't get it.....but yeah, conditions do suck at the end of the day, but also, snowboarders like you ruin the snow. Its called scraping off the dust on crust. Why don't you crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. *self edit* Quote
OutCold Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Wow you know you're a loser when you suck that bad and you have the time to make a whole website dedicated to your suckyness Quote
Max Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Posted January 23, 2008 thats not me i was just watching an edit and that came up in related. I think its cool that people need to learn we all did at one time but stick to the slow trails and learning areas hence their names. Quote
sexkitten Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 really? funny i see more first time skiers doing the pizza the whole way down. seems just as destructive. I might be retarded but I thought that when you pizza you're kinda on an edge and not just flat out. You wouldn't really stop if you didn't catch at least some edge. I think I would have to just slide sideways to do that much damage. Ugh. Quote
toast21602 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 I might be retarded but I thought that when you pizza you're kinda on an edge and not just flat out. You wouldn't really stop if you didn't catch at least some edge. I think I would have to just slide sideways to do that much damage. Ugh. yeah... you are on edge... but not the way that its supposed to be used. and that is why it scrapes all the snow off the trail as opposed to sking the edge to make turns where very little snow is displaced. Quote
Glenn Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Snowboarders push all the snow to the bottom of the hill. Thats why the bumps are better at Alta. Quote
stever2003 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 btw, anyone see the link in the video description? www.eastcoastpowder.com that's the first thing i noticed. pretty ironic. eh, i'm kinda with chippy and dan. even the pizza wedge doesnt remove all the snow, i think it would be fair to say it displaces a bit of it but since each ski is travelling at a small angle to the direction of motion rather than perpendicular, the effect isn't as drastic as with a snowboard. I often get mad when i see snowboarders scraping everything away. I don't like to apply this generalization to the more experienced snowboarders, however, because they seem to be able to maneuver most of the time without scraping snow away. Obviously good skiers and boarders can stop/slow themselves without doing the wedge or scraping down 100 yards of mountain, so beginners are to blame. in conclusion, the guys in that video are noobs. you just gotta man up and go straight...dig in an edge or something. nobody can yell at you when you're not making turns. (all of this is extremely hypocritical, which i did intentionally as a joke since i'll be snowboarding for my third time ever this saturday at blue) Quote
Dan- Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 I don't get it..... but yeah, conditions do suck at the end of the day, but also, snowboarders like you ruin the snow. Its called scraping off the dust on crust. uhh.. Do you know what the term dust on crust means? Quote
Papasteeze Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) all right guys... maybe some of the older skiers will back me up on this ... Snowboarders are the skiers mid day groomers. The slopes used to get very choppy and hard to ski by mid afternoon before snowboarding. Snowboarders tend to level the skiers ruts back out. and yes trails are scraped out in the middle as a result of snowboarding. I don't remember any trails scraped in the middle back in the 70's and 80's Edited January 23, 2008 by Papasteeze Quote
trackbiker Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 If your board is perpendicular to the fall line, as opposed to parallel to the fall line, most of the time; you're on a slope above your abilities. ANYONE can side-slip down a steep hill. But when you do that, you are scraping the snow off the hill and doing more damage than 100 snowplowing skiers. When you stand there perpendicular to the hill, thinking you look gnarly, skiers AND BOARDERS who actually know how to CARVE a turn, look at you and say, "A$$ Hole!!!" There's a reason that boards have a parabolic shape on the sides. If you don't why, or what "fall line" means, do everyone a favor and stay in the park! You don't have the edges to CARVE a turn anyway. Oh, and don't sit in the middle of the of trail when it is too tough for you to ride all the way to the bottom. Stop on the side of the trail. Quote
stever2003 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 If your board is perpendicular to the fall line, as opposed to parallel to the fall line, most of the time; you're on a slope above your abilities. ANYONE can side-slip down a steep hill. But when you do that, you are scraping the snow off the hill and doing more damage than 100 snowplowing skiers. When you stand there perpendicular to the hill, thinking you look gnarly, skiers AND BOARDERS who actually know how to CARVE a turn, look at you and say, "A$$ Hole!!!" There's a reason that boards have a parabolic shape on the sides. If you don't why, or what "fall line" means, do everyone a favor and stay in the park! You don't have the edges to CARVE a turn anyway. Oh, and don't sit in the middle of the of trail when it is too tough for you to ride all the way to the bottom. Stop on the side of the trail. well put. Quote
DHarrisburg Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 There are a lot of awful posts in this thread. Quote
phillycore Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 That video is a horrible sight... Of course everyone has to learn at some point and FTW my 12y/o son snowplows down the hill the whole time. (I can't seem to get him to man the hell up and point them straight for some reason, no matter how much I try). BOTH skiers doing the plow and snowboarders going sideways kills the conditions, neither is any better than the other honestly if they are both messing it up for the rest of us. Quote
method9455 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 There are a lot of awful posts in this thread. Seriously. Beginner skiers/snowboarders both push the snow around, both scrape it off, both present a danger in the park, and both ruin it for the advanced guys. Thats why you get used to riding within 6' of the edge of the trail after 1, all the snow is pushed over there. Quote
phillycore Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Seriously. Beginner skiers/snowboarders both push the snow around, both scrape it off, both present a danger in the park, and both ruin it for the advanced guys. Thats why you get used to riding within 6' of the edge of the trail after 1, all the snow is pushed over there. X2 Quote
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