nick malozzi Posted November 9, 2008 Report Posted November 9, 2008 When were you hitting trees that I wasn't looking? One of the days Shadows was with us. I came around a turn and there he was stopped. I tried to stop but when I did my edge caught a sapling just under the snow and i went flying into the tree well. I wrapped around the tree at my hip/abdomen and knocked the wind out of myself. Shadows got moving again though before the wreck, but was nice enough to tell me it sounded bad . I'm sure you'll witness me hit something this year since I'm really hoping to push harder now that I have health insurance. Quote
method9455 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Posted November 9, 2008 I use the R.E.D. wrist gaurds that are basically a mesh underglove with thin metal ribbons in them. They prevent you from over extending your wrist but they are not rigid like a roller blading wrist gaurd. Even though concrete is harder than snow, you have more force when you fall snowboarding. When you fall rollerblading, generally you are falling from a standing position. Even the smallest rail will add 2 feet to that, but a jump will add 10 as you are coming down. What could be absorbed by your arm before will now break it, so if you are looking to use wrist guards in the park, use the ones that will absorb some energy instead of just transfer it up your arm. For beginners, sometimes I will let them use the rollerblading ones because the speeds are low enough that it is much like the loads in rollerblading. Quote
Papasteeze Posted November 10, 2008 Report Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) nips wore them for 3 years, I know for a fact that they work very well and lessen the bruising especially when gettting owned by a box or rail Edited November 10, 2008 by Papasteeze Quote
paolo Posted November 10, 2008 Report Posted November 10, 2008 I wear the dakine wrist guard gloves. Im sort of scared they may just move my wrist injuries up my arm thought. Quote
mollyskeez Posted November 10, 2008 Report Posted November 10, 2008 also, not only do they help on rails but coming into a landing still cork the help alot. i used to get bruises from that not rails and havent gotten one since i got my crashpads. Quote
shopey1080 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) i guess it comes down to if you can handle pain well or not...if you cant handle it too well you should probably get some crash pads...if you can man up and bite your lip for the rest of the day from the bruise you might get from landing awkwardly, you dont need them......also if you like to ski drunk i suggest them haha...or if your a girl you mite want them Edited November 11, 2008 by shopey1080 Quote
Glenn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 i guess it comes down to if you can handle pain well or not...if you cant handle it too well you should probably get some crash pads...if you can man up and bite your lip for the rest of the day from the bruise you might get from landing awkwardly, you dont need them......also if you like to ski drunk i suggest them haha...or if your a girl you mite want them I'm thinking you should probably shut it. Quote
Tyler Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 i guess it comes down to if you can handle pain well or not...if you cant handle it too well you should probably get some crash pads...if you can man up and bite your lip for the rest of the day from the bruise you might get from landing awkwardly, you dont need them......also if you like to ski drunk i suggest them haha...or if your a girl you mite want them haha dude thats 2 absolutely retarded posts you've made in this thread, keep up the good work! Quote
toast21602 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 I'm thinking you should probably shut it. i second that. is this for real right now? Quote
Robert2 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 Ever been to the Emergency Room for a crash? I got chopped up by an out of control skier doing cart wheels and a yardsale and I wound up ripping up a shoulder. You can't plan any fall. You don't "fall on your forearms". You crash or get run over. Then depending on how bad you wear a sling or a cast for a few weeks or a month and that can ruin your whole winter. Wear all the armor you can. I was in the ER and there was snowboarder laying on a bed next to me with a concussion. He was totally blind from brain damage. He was not wearing a helmet when he crashed. He had a dozen body piercings in his face and the nurse told him that they have to remove all his metal jewelry , posts, spikes, gauges before they could take him to XRAY. They said it was sort of personal so they had his mother do it. Don't wear your metal when you snowboard. If you end up in the ER do you really want your mother ripping out your tongue spike? If you are landing so hard that you break your arm while wearing basic rollerblade wristguards then you probably would break your arm wearing any advanced protection or no protection at all. Pocono hardpack is solid ice groomed daily to have a grippable surface. There rarely is "soft snow" here and that means to make a skiable surface we get groomed ice. Ice is just as hard as concrete so if you skateboard and would think nothing of grinding rails on steep hills without wearing armor then snowboarding without armor is for you. For everyone else that bleeds, there's armor. Wear all the armor you can. Quote
toast21602 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 this keeps getting better and better... Quote
ectobar Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Posted November 11, 2008 That's it. It's settled. I'll be rocking this: Quote
n0xidee Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 That's it. It's settled. I'll be rocking this: Quote
Papasteeze Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 Wear all the armor you can. Quote
nick malozzi Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 i guess it comes down to if you can handle pain well or not...if you cant handle it too well you should probably get some crash pads...if you can man up and bite your lip for the rest of the day from the bruise you might get from landing awkwardly, you dont need them......also if you like to ski drunk i suggest them haha...or if your a girl you mite want them ignorance is bliss until you get run over by someone or hit a tree. it amazes me that so may people are against wearing protective gear skiing and snowboarding, but don't say dick about football players or hockey players wearing 10 times more. Quote
shopey1080 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 its a personal choice. I have been skiing for 10 years and have never been hurt once. I stay in good shape and stretch before i go out every time. And no i dont just carve around the mountain...i mainly stay in sidewinder park all day and I am comfortable with every feature that has been in there. I have entered skiercross for the past 4 years with no injury problems. never wearing crash pads once in my life. I just believe there is no need for them here in pa...If you are aware of your body and know how to fall of course you may get a bruise here and there but thats part of the sport of freestyle skiing. Why minimize your accomplishments by taking all the risk away? I ski for the thrill and going in there with a body suit of pads is ridiculous....in my opinion you have to be a pretty big pussy to wear pads at blue mt.....i know all you guys who wear these pads are gonna hate on this haha but its just my opinion sorry Quote
nick malozzi Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 its a personal choice. I have been skiing for 10 years and have never been hurt once. I stay in good shape and stretch before i go out every time. And no i dont just carve around the mountain...i mainly stay in sidewinder park all day and I am comfortable with every feature that has been in there. I have entered skiercross for the past 4 years with no injury problems. never wearing crash pads once in my life. I just believe there is no need for them here in pa...If you are aware of your body and know how to fall of course you may get a bruise here and there but thats part of the sport of freestyle skiing. Why minimize your accomplishments by taking all the risk away? I ski for the thrill and going in there with a body suit of pads is ridiculous....in my opinion you have to be a pretty big pussy to wear pads at blue mt.....i know all you guys who wear these pads are gonna hate on this haha but its just my opinion sorry if you read this thread you'd realize that most of us aren't telling people to go out in head to toe pads. i wear a simple pair of shorts that has some soft foam padding over my tail bone, and around the joints in my hips. i rock a helmet as well, but if you can't see the importance of helmets i'm not going to sit here and argue over it (natural selection will eventually win that battle for me). the only mention of more hardcore padding was made by someone who charges hard DAILY at a colorado mountain. this is a guy who is constantly pushing himself day in and day out, and knows damn well that some added protection will keep him doing so. i work out regularly, stretch, all that BS you mentioned. that isn't going to help you though when an out of control skier takes you out from behind, or you make a blind turn and run smack into someone standing there. i guess i'm a pussy though since i wore my crash pads when i rode at blue. i salute you for being a bigger man then me. Quote
shopey1080 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 i am not arguing wearing a helmet whatsoever....helmets have been proven to save lives...where pads have not....but thanks for the salute haha Quote
shopey1080 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 i work out regularly, stretch, all that BS you mentioned. that isn't going to help you though when an out of control skier takes you out from behind, or you make a blind turn and run smack into someone standing there. i guess i'm a pussy though since i wore my crash pads when i rode at blue. i salute you for being a bigger man then me. So your lil butt pad is gonna protect you from a out of control skier? or from when you run into somone else..... Quote
nick malozzi Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 So your lil butt pad is gonna protect you from a out of control skier? or from when you run into somone else..... It helped me greatly when I came around that blind turn at WP and shadows was stopped there in the middle of the turn. I took the tree in the abdomen/hip. I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty damn sure my hip would have been pretty jacked up without them. You also claim to be able to "tough it out" and fight through the bruises. Again, I guess you are more of a man then me, because I've fallen on landings straight on my tailbone and had a hard time walking let alone riding. So let me know what kind of Wheaties you eat, cause I need me some. Quote
mollyskeez Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 I have been skiing for 10 years and have never been hurt once. im guessign you dont ride park or your not trying. Quote
PASKIINGSUCKS Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 It is proven that bruises and minor fractures actually grow back tougher than before. Some of the toughest guys in sports I know are that way because they have taken so many shots that they are now walking bricks. I'm not gonna advise not wearing pads, because it is a personal choice. I will however say that I choose to take lumps and let them heal in order to build tougher muscle. By all means if your concerned about injury just wear the pads that you are worried about, or if you have an existing injury or bruise then cover it with a pad so it won't get worse. For those saying you can't control a fall, I have to disagree to a certain extent. Yes accidents happen and sometimes you can't see them coming. On the other hand I have seen many people break wrists because of the poor practice of reaching out to "catch" your impact. There are ways to control crashes and reduce injury, like I previously stated if you pull your limbs in toward your body before an impact you get them close to your core and the whole of your body takes the impact rather than breaking a wrist. Of course I did just start wearing a brain bucket last year though, so I'm stating a biased opinion toward no pads. Quote
method9455 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 dont get crash pads unless your going really big....nothing in PA requires crash pads...if your careful and know what your doing you should be fine...taking a spill here and there is apart of the sport and wearing padding gives you a sense of invincibility....not wearing pads shows confidence in your ability, this is just my opinion...if your scared of getting hurt or if you have any thought that you may get hurt you probably shouldn't be attempting it. be safe, have fun, and knows your limits..... I don't understand the "in PA" part. I use a helmet all the time everywhere, and wrist guards when I feel there is more risk than normal (park or really icy days). When you go north or west, the snow is softer, the place is less crowded, it seems like you need them less. I think riding this area is the most dangerous riding I do, I have 0 faith in the people "skiing" around us, where as when you go to other places its you and the hill and a lot less can go wrong. Quote
DHarrisburg Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 Guys don't forget to always wear clean underwear when you ride because you could fall and get brain damage and could you imagine what it would be like when the nurse has to take off your skidmarked undies?????????????????????? Quote
Glenn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) Not if you don't wear underwear Shopey, if you've never had a day where you had to pack it in early because you got hurt, you aren't pushing yourself as much as others here. That's fine, progress at your own rate. For those that are pushing themselves like that, it keeps them on the hill longer. So a short day turns into a longer day, and a break turns into a bruise. You still "man up" just as much, but you notch down the severity of each injury. Surprisingly being a snow sports aren't about being the biggest cowboy on the hill. It's all personal choice, but calling people pussies for not making the same choice is pretty lame. Also, on skis your tailbone is pretty protected. Bruised tailbones take me off the slopes every season. You would think I would learn my lesson and just get ass pads. Also, R2 is insane. Keep posting man. Edited November 11, 2008 by Glenn Quote
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