Santa Clauss Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm gonna try the flow's, I know... Flow's suck, but there just laying around and they are pretty stiff. also speedy entry/exit for a speedy deck... (Yeh that was lame) Plus the 32 primes are pretty stiff already. both bindings are set at 30, anyone have any recomendations? I'm just guessing at this point. I've never ridden a forward stance like this. I cant wait to ride this, it should be an experience. It kinda reminds me of a slalom ski (water skiing) I can do that too so... I should pick it up pretty fast Like I said, if anyone wants to try it I'll be happy to let them, just PM me and meet me at Sno. I'll be up tomorrow afternoon and sunday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) What stance, angles, do you normally ride on a regular board? I ride 33 degrees in my forward foot...in a Burton binding and 6 degrees on my rear foot... in a Flow binding. Edited February 28, 2009 by Robert2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) What stance, angles, do you normally ride on a regular board?I ride 33 degrees in my forward foot...in a Burton binding and 6 degrees on my rear foot... in a Flow binding. nevermind. Edited February 28, 2009 by toast21602 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train36 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 What stance, angles, do you normally ride on a regular board?I ride 33 degrees in my forward foot...in a Burton binding and 6 degrees on my rear foot... in a Flow binding. Robert , you are riding two different bindings on the same board? I can't believe this. You take a bus everyday to ride jf/bb , roller skate in parking lots when you are bored and ride with two different bindings because you like getting into the flows 10-15 seconds faster. I <3 pasr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Robert , you are riding two different bindings on the same board? I can't believe this. You take a bus everyday to ride jf/bb , roller skate in parking lots when you are bored and ride with two different bindings because you like getting into the flows 10-15 seconds faster. I <3 pasr. DUDE. that is my quote that i use when ridiculous shit gets said on PASR, and i'm not happy about you using it without my permission. but, in this situation it is necessary to be said, so thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Robert , you are riding two different bindings on the same board? I can't believe this. You take a bus everyday to ride jf/bb , roller skate in parking lots when you are bored and ride with two different bindings because you like getting into the flows 10-15 seconds faster. I <3 pasr. I learned to ride in Burtons at 33 and 6 then started playing around with stepin bindings.... CLICKER, SWITCH, etc. I never liked any of the boots for stepin bindings. They just were not as rigid as stepping into a Burton binding. So 3 winters ago I sat on my fat ass and strapped in 2000 times with Burton bindings. Each strap in and shoulder roll over and push up added up to great exercise. Then I got lazy. I bought FLOW bindings for last winter at the Army Navy store for $90 and never sat in the snow again. Every second sitting in the snow takes away from ride time.... or should I say lift time? I like to get off the lift and be gone, not hang around strapping in. The faster I'm gone the more rides I get in the day. Since the ride only lasts 30 seconds , why spend a minute sitting in the snow? Also... waiting for a whole crew of boarders to ratchet strap in looks like a bunch of gapers. Flows gets off your ass and gone in a flash. I found that the FLOW bindings do not have the same rigid support as Burtons so I wear the Burton on the high angle leading foot. I don't think the FLOWs or K2 Cinch binding were designed to be used at angles higher than 30 degrees. I wore out a Burton binding after 2 seasons so this summer I bought new Burton bindings. This year I also got K2 cinch bindings to backup the FLOWs. The cinch has many more moving parts compared to the FLOWs and I don't know what to expect to wear out in them so I only ride the cinches on a spare teaching board. Its nice to be able to hop out of the bindings quick and run around and hold up a student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train36 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) DUDE. that is my quote that i use when ridiculous shit gets said on PASR, and i'm not happy about you using it without my permission. but, in this situation it is necessary to be said, so thanks. I know , I was actually going to put as Toast would say before it, but had quite a few Rising Moons last night and forgot. It was definitely needed in this situation but will let you handle it in the future. Edited February 28, 2009 by train36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train36 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I learned to ride in Burtons at 33 and 6 then started playing around with stepin bindings....CLICKER, SWITCH, etc. I never liked any of the boots for stepin bindings. They just were not as rigid as stepping into a Burton binding. So 3 winters ago I sat on my fat ass and strapped in 2000 times with Burton bindings. Each strap in and shoulder roll over and push up added up to great exercise. Then I got lazy. I bought FLOW bindings for last winter at the Army Navy store for $90 and never sat in the snow again. Every second sitting in the snow takes away from ride time.... or should I say lift time? I like to get off the lift and be gone, not hang around strapping in. The faster I'm gone the more rides I get in the day. Since the ride only lasts 30 seconds , why spend a minute sitting in the snow? Also... waiting for a whole crew of boarders to ratchet strap in looks like a bunch of gapers. Flows gets off your ass and gone in a flash. I found that the FLOW bindings do not have the same rigid support as Burtons so I wear the Burton on the high angle leading foot. I don't think the FLOWs or K2 Cinch binding were designed to be used at angles higher than 30 degrees. I wore out a Burton binding after 2 seasons so this summer I bought new Burton bindings. This year I also got K2 cinch bindings to backup the FLOWs. The cinch has many more moving parts compared to the FLOWs and I don't know what to expect to wear out in them so I only ride the cinches on a spare teaching board. Its nice to be able to hop out of the bindings quick and run around and hold up a student. I never have to sit down to strap in, its pretty easy to do standing up. Don't you feel the differences in flex and stiffness between bindings. I know this would really bother me. Maybe you should get some higher end Flows , I heard they are pretty decent and you might be able to have two of the same bindings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan- Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 PASR never ceases to amaze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I know , I was actually going to put as Toast would say before it, but had quite a few Rising Moons last night and forgot. It was definitely needed in this situation but will let you handle it in the future. fair enough, haha. i should have said it. i made a comment but i didn't follow with my traditional quote. i applaud you for picking up my slack haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clauss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 ya, the speed entry was my reasoning for getting flows 3 years ago but after going to ride deltas, the buckles on the new rides are so quick there is almost no difference. I can strap in standing up pretty much everywhere. And If I'm by my self I strap in on the lift which is super tough in the flows. So in most cases standard bindings are more convient, lighter and faster. Stance is 15 -13 I changed the alpine to 15 15 after doing a little carpet boarding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I never have to sit down to strap in, its pretty easy to do standing up. Don't you feel the differences in flex and stiffness between bindings. I know this would really bother me. Maybe you should get some higher end Flows , I heard they are pretty decent and you might be able to have two of the same bindings. FLOWs can be opened and closed with mittens on and I always had to pull off the mittens to put on ratchet bindings. More time stolen from the ride time. I didn't buy my FLOW bindings by shopping for "THE BEST" bindings. I bought them in the off season and found the cheapest FLOW binding offered. I've looked into newer FLOW models and really didn't see much of a difference between the $90 bindings and the $300 bindings. Since my style of riding is real old school alpine ... forward facing stance at 33 degrees... I don't have any issue with the rear foot being the mushy FLOW binding compared to the rigid Burton binding. And since I don't take off the forward foot all day I don't care if its a standard ratchet binding. And to TOAST. Your crap belongs in the DOSHBAG thread. again. You have nothing to say about riding high angles or alpine? Shut the hell up. RE: DUDE. that is my quote that i use when ridiculous shit gets said on PASR, and i'm not happy about you using it without my permission.but, in this situation it is necessary to be said, so thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 And to TOAST.Your crap belongs in the DOSHBAG thread. again. You have nothing to say about riding high angles or alpine? Shut the hell up. RE: DUDE. that is my quote that i use when ridiculous shit gets said on PASR, and i'm not happy about you using it without my permission.but, in this situation it is necessary to be said, so thanks. i <3 pasr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train36 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 i <3 pasr. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clauss Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 no offense to people who are strapped for cash but buying the cheapest gear is stupid. I'm all for a great sale but I strongly believe that cheap gear holds you back. mittens suck. cold hands? ride harder and get bigger coat so your sleeves cover most of your hands. I use pipe gloves all year even in single digit temps. btw I got to the parking lot had the banana with the ride delta's and the alp with the flows, took it out of the car, looked at it, and swapped the flow's out for the delta's I just couldn't go back to those pieces of shit. first had my stance about 15 5 got a little comfortable, then went 15 15, then about 20 15, got confident on a double black carved hard on the heal and went down due to heal drag, slid my ass down about 200 ft, finially spun around on my ass dug the heal in and rode away before I came to a stop, I was like woh noooo good... I'm gonna have to get the hard bindings. but now I know why alpine board's are not that popular, it was fun for 2 runs then got kind of boring. regardless of how much I'm gonna use it, I wanted to try it and It looks awesome so It'll look great in my room. It wasn't a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixilplix Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 mittens suck. cold hands? ride harder and get bigger coat so your sleeves cover most of your hands. I'm gonna have to get the hard bindings. but now I know why alpine board's are not that popular, it was fun for 2 runs then got kind of boring. regardless of how much I'm gonna use it, I wanted to try it and It looks awesome so It'll look great in my room. It wasn't a waste. I find mittens to be OK...Wear what ever keeps your hands warm.... It's a whole different game with the hard boots....insane speed and the abitlity to carve at insane speeds.you really don't have toe and heel drag with hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I went to Mittens this season and I love them. I've got standard ratchet bindings and have never had any kind of trouble strapping in with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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