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Great link. We've been looking for this info for the stats tables, right? Can the admins import this info somehow just in case this site goes away? In the meantime can there be a link on the stats page for the use of those who don't use an altimeter?

Posted

I haz the data...

 

Revelstoke Ski Resort, British Columbia,5620
Whistler-Blackcomb Ski Resort, British Columbia,5234
Jackson Hole Ski Resort, Wyoming,4105
Panorama Ski Resort, British Columbia,3979
Telluride Ski Resort, Colorado,3830
Kicking Horse Ski Resort, British Columbia,3790
Timberline Ski Resort, Mt. Hood, Oregon,3690
Big Sky Resort, Montana,3619
Aspen Highlands Ski Resort, Colorado,3572
Snowmass Ski Resort, Aspen, Colorado,3355
Beaver Creek Ski Resort, Colorado,3340
Aspen Mountain/Ajax Ski Resort, Colorado,3267
Sun Valley Ski Resort, Idaho,3241
Lake Placid/Whiteface Mountain Ski Resort, New York,3216
Lake Louise Ski Resort, Banff, Alberta,3150
Snowbird Ski Resort, Utah,3120
Vail Ski Resort, Colorado,3041
Snowbasin Ski Resort, Utah,2960
Mammoth Ski Resort, California,2885
Breckenridge Ski Resort, Colorado,2880
Red Mountain Ski Resort, British Columbia,2833
Mount Hood Meadows, Oregon,2822
Castle Mountain Ski Resort, Alberta,2820
Fernie Alpine Resort, British Columbia,2780
Tamarack Ski Resort, Idaho,2760
Crested Butte Mountain Resort, Colorado,2755
Heavenly Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,2735
Park City Ski Resort, Utah,2712
Sun Peaks Ski Resort, British Columbia,2682
Yellowstone Club Ski Resort, Montana,2669
Mount Bachelor Ski Resort, Oregon,2645
The Canyons Ski Resort, Park City, Utah,2615
Sugarbush Ski Resort, Vermont,2600
Winter Park Ski Resort, Colorado,2574
Crystal Mountain Ski Resort, Washington,2571
Montana Snowbowl Ski Area, Montana,2564
Moonlight Basin Ski Resort, Big Sky, Montana,2535
Steamboat Ski Resort, Colorado,2479
Sugarloaf Ski Resort, Maine,2477
Silver Star Ski Resort, British Columbia,2422
June Mountain Winter Resort, California,2420
Nakiska Ski Resort, Banff, Alberta,2411
Copper Mountain Ski Resort, Colorado,2410
Schweitzer Mountain Ski Resort, Idaho,2395
Alyeska Ski Resort, Alaska,2390
Squaw Valley Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,2389
Taos Ski Resort, New Mexico,2379
Keystone Ski Resort, Colorado,2362
Whitefish Ski Resort, Montana,2305
Big White Ski Resort, British Columbia,2283
Northstar-at-Tahoe Ski Resort, California,2276
Alpental / Summit at Snoqualmie Ski Resort, Washington,2275
Jasper's Marmot Basin Ski Resort, Alberta,2240
Le Massif Ski Resort, Quebec,2220
Mission Ridge Ski & Snowboard Resort, Washington,2190
Arizona Snowbowl Ski Resort, Arizona,2180
Cannon Mountain Ski Resort, New Hampshire,2180
Silver Mountain Ski Resort, Idaho,2160
Jay Peak Ski Resort, Vermont,2153
Sundance Ski Resort, Utah,2140
Wildcat Mountain Ski Resort, New Hampshire,2112
Loon Mountain Ski Resort, New Hampshire,2100
Gore Mountain Ski Resort, New York,2100
Turner Mountain Ski Area, Montana,2090
Mount Baldy Ski Area, California,2080
Smugglers Notch Ski Resort, Vermont,2080
Stowe Ski Resort, Vermont,2080
Angel Fire Ski Resort, New Mexico,2072
Mont-Sainte-Anne Ski Resort, Quebec,2068
Solitude Ski Resort, Utah,2055
Mad River Glen Ski Area, Vermont,2037
Mont Tremblant Ski Resort, Quebec,2031
Buttermilk Ski Resort, Aspen, Colorado,2030
Waterville Valley Ski Resort, New Hampshire,2020
Burke Mountain Ski Resort, Vermont,2011
Powder Mountain Ski Resort, Utah,2010
Alta Ski Resort, Utah,2005
Stratton Mountain Ski Resort, Vermont,2003
Saddleback Maine Ski Resort, Maine,2000
Okemo Mountain Ski Resort, Vermont,1980
Pico Mountain Ski Area, Vermont,1967
Bridger Bowl Ski Resort, Montana,1950
Red Lodge Ski Resort, Montana,1950
Deer Valley Ski Resort, Park City, Utah,1910
Pebble Creek Ski Area, Idaho,1905
Silverton Mountain Ski Area, Colorado,1900
Grand Targhee Ski Resort, Wyoming,1892
Powder King Ski Resort, British Columbia,1885
Kimberley Ski Resort, British Columbia,1877
49 Degrees North Ski Resort, Washington,1875
Banff Sunshine Village Ski Resort, Banff, Alberta,1864
Apex Mountain Resort, British Columbia,1854
Bogus Basin Ski Resort, Idaho,1819
Stevens Pass Ski Resort, Washington,1806
Loveland Ski Area, Colorado,1781
Lost Trail Powder Mountain, Montana,1780
Brundage Mountain Ski Resort, Idaho,1769
Brighton Ski Resort, Utah,1760
Sunlight Ski Resort, Colorado,1756
Big Squaw Ski Resort, Maine,1750
Attitash Bear Peak Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1750
Diamond Peak Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, Nevada,1741
Bear Valley Ski & Snowboard Resort, California,1740
Ski Santa Fe, New Mexico,1740
Ascutney Mountain Resort, Vermont,1720
Killington Ski Resort, Vermont,1720
Mount Snow Ski Resort, Vermont,1700
Arapahoe Basin/Abasin Ski Resort, Colorado,1698
Troll Ski Resort, British Columbia,1693
Ski Apache Resort, New Mexico,1690
Bear Mountain Resort, Big Bear Lake, California,1665
Cypress Mountain Ski Area, British Columbia,1655
Red River Ski Area, New Mexico,1652
Discovery Ski Area, Montana,1649
Murray Ridge Ski Area, British Columbia,1645
Mt. Rose Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, Nevada,1635
Sunday River Ski Resort, Maine,1630
Homewood Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,1625
Kirkwood Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,1622
Durango/Purgatory Ski Resort, Colorado,1609
Sandia Peak Ski & Tramway, New Mexico,1605
Powderhorn Ski Resort, Colorado,1600
Beaver Mountain Ski Resort, Utah,1595
Sierra-at-Tahoe Ski Resort, California,1590
Mountain High Ski Resort, California,1588
Dodge Ridge Ski Resort, California,1572
Sierra Summit / China Peak Ski Resort, California,1570
Mount Spokane Ski & Snowboard Park, Washington,1565
Alpine Meadows Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,1555
Snow King Ski Resort, Wyoming,1554
Mt. Washington Alpine Resort, British Columbia,1540
Smithers / Hudson Bay Ski Resort, British Columbia,1527
Willamette Pass Ski Resort, Oregon,1525
Hunter Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1520
Magic Mountain Ski Resort, Vermont,1520
Mount Sunapee Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1510
Bretton Woods Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1500
White Pass Ski Resort, Washington,1494
Snowshoe Mountain Ski Resort, West Virginia,1480
Eaglecrest Ski Area, Alaska,1475
Maverick Mountain Ski Area, Montana,1475
Mont Sutton Ski Resort, Quebec,1472
Shames Mountain Ski Area, British Columbia,1470
Mount Baker Ski Area, Washington,1464
Sugar Bowl Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,1447
Great Divide Ski Area, Montana,1429
Owl's Head Ski Resort, Quebec,1410
Blacktail Mountain Ski Area, Montana,1405
Wolf Creek Ski Area, Colorado,1400
Gunstock Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1400
Tenney Mountain Ski Area, New Hampshire,1400
Windham Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1400
Mount Shasta Ski Park, California,1399
Mount Hood Skibowl, Oregon,1381
Banff Mt. Norquay Ski Resort, Banff, Alberta,1380
Soldier Mountain Ski Resort, Idaho,1371
Pine Creek Ski Resort, Wyoming,1364
Mt. Cain Ski Area, British Columbia,1358
Eldora Ski Resort, Colorado,1355
Sunrise Park Ski Resort, Arizona,1340
Bromley Mountain Resort, Vermont,1334
Moose Mountain Ski Resort, Alaska,1307
Showdown Ski Resort, Montana,1301
Harper Mountain Ski Area, British Columbia,1300
Shawnee Peak Ski Resort, Maine,1300
Mt. Baldy Ski Area, British Columbia,1290
Belleayre Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1280
Ragged Mountain Ski Area, New Hampshire,1250
Whitewater Winter Resort, British Columbia,1225
Loup Loup Ski Bowl, Washington,1205
Cranmore Mountain Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1200
Bristol Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1200
Pajarito Mountain Ski Area, New Mexico,1195
Snow Summit Ski Resort, Big Bear Lake, California,1194
Cooper Ski Resort, Colorado,1180
Berkshire East Ski Area, Massachusetts,1180
Sugar Mountain Ski Resort, North Carolina,1180
Mt. Ashland Ski Area, Oregon,1165
Grouse Mountain Ski Area, British Columbia,1152
Black Mountain of Maine Ski Resort, Maine,1150
Mount Abram Ski Resort, Maine,1150
Jiminy Peak Ski Resort, Massachusetts,1150
Brian Head Ski Resort, Utah,1135
Stoneham Mountain Ski Resort, Quebec,1132
Bluewood Ski Area, Washington,1126
Hemlock Valley Ski Resort, British Columbia,1108
Salmo Ski Area, British Columbia,1100
Black Mountain Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1100
Plattekill Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1100
Terry Peak Ski Area, South Dakota,1100
Blue Mountain Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,1082
Manning Park Ski Resort, British Columbia,1080
Sipapu Ski Resort, New Mexico,1075
Blue Knob Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,1072
Alpenglow/Arctic Valley Ski Area, Alaska,1070
Massanutten Ski Resort, Virginia,1070
Massif du Sud Ski Mountain, Quebec,1066
Mt. Aurora Skiland, Alaska,1057
Middlebury Snow Bowl Ski Area, Vermont,1050
Purden Ski Village, British Columbia,1046
Mountain Creek Ski Resort, New Jersey,1040
Lookout Pass Ski Area, Idaho,1030
Mont Ste. Marie Ski Resort, Quebec,1017
Monarch Ski Resort, Colorado,1011
Pomerelle Ski Area, Idaho,1010
West Mountain Ski Resort, New York,1010
Wintergreen Ski Resort, Virginia,1003
Butternut Ski Resort, Massachusetts,1000
Wachusett Mountain Ski Area, Massachusetts,1000
Balsams Wilderness Ski Resort, New Hampshire,1000
Catamount Ski Resort, New York,1000
Elk Mountain Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,1000
Sno Mountain Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,1000
Hoodoo Ski Area, Oregon,984
Big Rock Ski Resort, Maine,980
Timberline Ski Resort, West Virginia,980
Dartmouth Skiway Ski Area, New Hampshire,968
Bolton Valley Ski Resort, Vermont,960
Greek Peak Ski Resort, New York,952
Mt. Seymour Ski Area, British Columbia,945
Teton Pass Ski Area, Montana,945
Wolf Creek Utah / Wolf Mountain Ski Resort, Utah,943
Mount Lemmon Ski Valley, Arizona,907
Mont Orford Ski Resort, Quebec,905
Whitetail Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,895
White Pine Ski Area & Resort, Wyoming,895
Mt. Timothy Ski Area, British Columbia,887
Bear Paw Ski Bowl, Montana,886
Crotched Mountain Ski Area, New Hampshire,875
Kelly Canyon Ski Resort, Idaho,874
Snow Valley Mountain Resort, California,849
SolVista Basin Ski Resort, Colorado,839
Mount Waterman Ski Area, California,830
Ski Beech, North Carolina,830
Mount Bohemia Ski Resort, Michigan,820
Big Horn Ski Resort, Wyoming,808
Anthony Lakes Ski Resort, Oregon,804
Camden Snow Bowl Ski Area, Maine,800
Camelback Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,800
Ski Bromont Ski Resort, Quebec,790
Val D'Irene Ski Resort, Quebec,790
Warner Canyon Mountain Resort, Oregon,770
Sleeping Giant Ski Resort, Wyoming,765
Lutsen Mountains Ski Resort, Minnesota,760
Bousquet Ski Area, Massachusetts,750
Seven Springs Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,750
Ski Denton, Pennsylvania,750
Cataloochee Ski Area, North Carolina,740
Canaan Valley Ski Resort, West Virginia,740
Blue Mountain Ski Resort, Ontario,732
Pats Peak Ski Area, New Hampshire,710
Donner Ski Ranch, Lake Tahoe, California,705
Wisp Ski Resort, Maryland,700
Spirit Mountain Ski Area, Minnesota,700
Whaleback Ski Area, New Hampshire,700
Labrador Mountain Ski Area, New York,700
Song Mountain Ski Resort, New York,700
Toggenburg Ski Area, New York,700
Wolf Ridge Ski Resort, North Carolina,700
Shawnee Mountain Ski Area, Pennsylvania,700
The Homestead Ski Resort, Virginia,700
Granite Peak Ski Area, Wisconsin,700
Las Vegas Ski & Snowboard Resort, Nevada,695
Le Relais Ski Mountain, Quebec,691
Calabogie Peaks Resort, Ontario,684
Mont Blanc Ski Resort, Quebec,683
Holiday Valley Ski Resort, New York,680
Phoenix Mountain Ski Resort, British Columbia,677
Sky Tavern Ski Area, Nevada,659
Mohawk Mountain Ski Area, Connecticut,650
Oak Mountain Ski Area, New York,650
Swain Ski Resort, New York,650
Ski Big Bear, Pennsylvania,650
Suicide Six Ski Area, Vermont,650
Bald Mountain Ski Area, Idaho,645
Ferguson Ridge Ski Area, Oregon,644
Porcupine Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,641
Magic Mountain Ski Resort, Idaho,640
Titus Mountain Ski Area, New York,640
McCauley Ski Area, New York,633
Ski Sundown, Connecticut,625
Hidden Valley Ski Area, New Jersey,620
Mystic Miner Ski Resort at Deer Mountain, South Dakota,620
Mont Saint Sauveur Ski Resort, Quebec,605
Ski Cloudcroft, New Mexico,602
Elk Ridge Ski Area, Arizona,600
Echo Mountain Ski and Snowboard Resort, Colorado,600
Hesperus Ski Area, Colorado,600
Thunder Ridge Ski Resort, New York,600
Jack Frost Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,600
Liberty Mountain Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,600
Ski Roundtop Mountain Resort, Pennsylvania,600
Ober Gatlinburg Ski Resort, Tennessee,600
Snowy Range Ski Area, Wyoming,593
Winterplace Ski Resort, West Virginia,580
Coppervale Ski Area, California,573
Hogadon Ski Area, Wyoming,570
Badger Pass Ski Area, California,555
Boyne Highlands Ski Resort, Michigan,552
Kissing Bridge Ski Area, New York,550
Royal Mountain Ski Area, New York,550
Eagle Rock Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,550
Indianhead Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,540
Hidden Valley Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,540
Soda Springs Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,535
Spout Springs Ski Resort, Oregon,531
Boreal Ski Resort, Lake Tahoe, California,530
Eaton Mountain Ski Area, Maine,525
Granite Gorge Ski Area, New Hampshire,525
Holimont Ski Resort, New York,520
Mt. La Crosse Ski Area, Wisconsin,516
Ski Sawmill Family Resort, Pennsylvania,515
Tahoe Donner Ski Area, California,514
Arrowhead Ski Area, New Hampshire,511
Bear Creek Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,510
Willard Mountain Ski Resort, New York,505
Giants Ridge Ski Resort, Minnesota,500
Buffalo Ski Club, New York,500
Snow Ridge Ski Resort, New York,500
Woods Valley Ski Area, New York,500
Alpine Mountain Ski Area, Pennsylvania,500
Bryce Resort, Virginia,500
Devils Head Ski Resort, Wisconsin,500
Chestnut Mountain Ski Resort, Illinois,475
Big Boulder Ski Resort, Pennsylvania,475
Blandford Ski Area, Massachusetts,465
Blackjack Ski Resort, Michigan,465
Boyne Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,460
Marquette Mountain Ski Area, Michigan,460
Tussey Mountain Ski Area, Pennsylvania,460
Cascade Mountain Ski Resort, Wisconsin,460
Four Seasons Ski Area, New York,450
Mt. Peter Ski Area, New York,450
Huff Hills Ski Area, North Dakota,450
Mount Jefferson Ski Area, Maine,432
Cockaigne Ski Area, New York,430
Searchmont Ski Resort, Ontario,430
Nub's Nob Ski Area, Michigan,427
Mount Southington Ski Area, Connecticut,425
Coffee Mill Ski Area, Minnesota,425
Sundown Mountain Ski Resort, Iowa,420
Big Powderhorn Ski Area, Michigan,420
Mont Ripley Ski Hill, Michigan,420
Spring Mountain Ski Area, Pennsylvania,420
Tanglwood Ski Area, Pennsylvania,415
Alta Sierra Ski Resort, California,410
Little Ski Hill, Idaho,405
Snowhaven Ski Hill, Idaho,400
Perfect North Slopes Ski Area, Indiana,400
Otis Ridge Ski Area, Massachusetts,400
Holiday Mountain Ski & Fun, New York,400
Peek'n Peak Ski Resort, New York,400
Tuxedo Ridge Ski Area, New York,400
Alpine Valley Ski Resort, Wisconsin,388
Caberfae Peaks Ski Resort, Michigan,380
Mount St. Louis/Moonstone Ski Resort, Ontario,380
Bruce Mound Winter Sports Area, Wisconsin,375
Telemark Resort, Wisconsin,370
Appalachian Ski Mountain, North Carolina,365
Hermon Mountain Ski Area, Maine,360
Pine Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,360
Ski Brule Ski Resort, Michigan,360
Welch Village Ski and Snowboard Area, Minnesota,360
Whitecap Mountains Ski Resort, Wisconsin,360
Otsego Club Ski Resort, Michigan,358
Badger Mountain Ski Area, Washington,352
Titcomb Mountain Ski Area, Maine,350
Afton Alps Ski Resort, Minnesota,350
King Pine Ski Area, New Hampshire,350
Frost Fire Ski and Snowboard Area, North Dakota,350
Cochran's Ski Area, Vermont,350
Christie Mountain Ski Resort, Wisconsin,350
Canada Olympic Park, Alberta,345
Norway Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,320
Shanty Creek Ski Resort, Michigan,320
Mount Pleasant Ski Area, Pennsylvania,320
Mt. Ashwabay Recreation Area, Wisconsin,317
Cooper Spur Mountain Resort, Mt. Hood, Oregon,315
Powder Ridge Ski Area, Minnesota,310
Hidden Valley Ski Area, Missouri,310
Blue Hills Ski Area, Massachusetts,309
Buck Hill Ski Area, Minnesota,306
Woodbury Ski Area, Connecticut,300
Paoli Peaks Ski Area, Indiana,300
Crystal Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,300
Mt. Zion Ski Area, Michigan,300
Wild Mountain Ski Area, Minnesota,300
Snow Creek Ski Area, Missouri,300
McIntyre Ski Area, New Hampshire,300
Dry Hill Ski Area, New York,300
Bottineau Winter Park, North Dakota,300
Mad River Mountain Ski Resort, Ohio,300
Snow Trails Ski Resort, Ohio,300
Summit Ski Area , Mt. Hood, Oregon,300
Mont Du Lac Ski Area, Wisconsin,300
Tyrol Basin Ski and Snowboard Area, Wisconsin,300
Andes Tower Hills Ski Area, Minnesota,290
Bear's Den Ski Area, North Dakota,290
Seven Oaks Recreation Center, Iowa,275
Campgaw Mountain Ski Area, New Jersey,270
Maple Ski Ridge, New York,270
Nordic Mountain Ski Hill, Wisconsin,265
Ski Snowstar Resort, Illinois,262
Hilltop Ski Area, Alaska,260
Trollhaugen Ski Resort, Wisconsin,260
Christmas Mountain Village, Wisconsin,250
Bradford Ski Area, Massachusetts,248
Yagoo Valley Ski Area, Rhode Island,245
Crystal Ridge Ski and Snowboard Area, Wisconsin,245
Kendall Mountain Recreation Area, Colorado,240
Mount Crescent Ski Area, Iowa,240
Lost Valley Ski Area, Maine,240
Nashoba Valley Ski Area, Massachusetts,240
Mount Kato Ski Area, Minnesota,240
Boston Mills Brandywine Ski Resort, Ohio,240
Camp 10 Ski Area, Wisconsin,240
Mt. Brighton Ski Resort, Michigan,230
Buena Vista Ski Area, Minnesota,230
Ski Gull, Minnesota,230
Alpine Valley Ski Area, Ohio,230
Wilmot Mountain Ski Resort, Wisconsin,230
Treetops Resort, Michigan,225
Bittersweet Ski Resort, Michigan,220
Leavenworth Winter Sports Club, Washington,220
Sunburst Ski Resort, Wisconsin,214
Grand Geneva Resort, Wisconsin,211
Ski Ward, Massachusetts,210
Highlands of Olympia Ski Resort, Wisconsin,205
The Homestead Resort, Michigan,200
Sapphire Valley Ski Resort, North Carolina,200
Hidden Valley Ski Area, Wisconsin,190
Great Bear Recreation Park, South Dakota,183
Villa Olivia Country Club, Illinois,180
Mt. Holiday Ski Area, Michigan,180
Mt. Holly Ski Resort, Michigan,180
Pine Knob Ski Resort, Michigan,180
Timber Ridge Resort, Michigan,180
Hyland Ski and Snowboard Area, Minnesota,175
Granlibakken Lodge, Lake Tahoe, California,164
Alpine Valley Resort, Michigan,160
Cannonsburg Ski Area, Michigan,160
Hanson Hills Ski Area, Michigan,160
Hickory Hills Ski Center, Michigan,160
Boyce Park Ski Area, Pennsylvania,160
Cloudmont Ski Area, Alabama,150
Mt. McSauba Ski Area, Michigan,140
Pando Park, Michigan,125
Raging Buffalo Snowboard Park, Illinois,120
Petoskey Park Ski Area, Michigan,120
Snow Snake Ski Area, Michigan,120
Swiss Valley Ski Area, Michigan,100
Ski Four Lakes, Illinois,80
Apple Mountain Ski Resort, Michigan,80
Al Quaal Recreation Ski Area, Michigan,70
Sawkill Ski Area, New York,70
Howelsen Hill Ski Area, Colorado,45

Posted

I always knew Windham wasn't 1600 vert...the quad down the middle is listed at 1550 and it was 1280 according to my old avocet watch. I don't think Jack Frost is really 600 vert. The front face of Camelback is like 630 vert so maybe it is...the long flats at the bottom and top of Jack Frost is deceiving an sucks up some vert. Maybe somebody can figure out te vert of east moutain lift on google earth. Anyway most PASRs would rather perfect the perfect boardslide on a butter box to be concerned with statistics.

 

When it comes down to it, it's about fast lifts and commaraderie.

 

Most of the mid size and smaller mountains stretch the vertical. They measure from the top of the flag pole on the summit to the bottom of the well at the base. Blue Mt., Sno, and Blue Knob are exceptions. Even before Blue Mt. and Sno gave them competition Blue Knob reported the actual vertical. IIRC Elk is about 970'. Not too much of an exaggeration. Bear Creek, Spring Mt., Jack Frost, and Alpine Mt. all exaggerate the vertical. I have the real verticals somewhere. I'll try to find them and post them. I'm out of town for the next few days so it may not be until the weekend.

Google Maps is not all that accurate as far as vertical. They tend to understate vertical. The best source is the USGS survey maps.

Posted (edited)

Most of the mid size and smaller mountains stretch the vertical. They measure from the top of the flag pole on the summit to the bottom of the well at the base. Blue Mt., Sno, and Blue Knob are exceptions. Even before Blue Mt. and Sno gave them competition Blue Knob reported the actual vertical. IIRC Elk is about 970'. Not too much of an exaggeration. Bear Creek, Spring Mt., Jack Frost, and Alpine Mt. all exaggerate the vertical. I have the real verticals somewhere. I'll try to find them and post them. I'm out of town for the next few days so it may not be until the weekend.

Google Maps is not all that accurate as far as vertical. They tend to understate vertical. The best source is the USGS survey maps.

Bear Creek is most guilty of this.

Edited by poconoceancity
Posted

Hey guys - I'm one of the dudes behind Mountain Vertical. Saw this was posted from our site stats page, and thought I'd pop in.

 

Great link. We've been looking for this info for the stats tables, right? Can the admins import this info somehow just in case this site goes away? In the meantime can there be a link on the stats page for the use of those who don't use an altimeter?

 

haha don't worry, the site isn't going anywhere.

 

Anyway, what we found is that a ton of the smaller ski areas inflate by rounding up to the nearest hundred... so a resort with a vertical of 513 ft usually gets reported as 600 ft. Silly, huh?

 

Anyway, thx guys, and keep on spreading the word

 

Frank

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Posted

Hey guys - I'm one of the dudes behind Mountain Vertical. Saw this was posted from our site stats page, and thought I'd pop in.

 

 

 

haha don't worry, the site isn't going anywhere.

 

Anyway, what we found is that a ton of the smaller ski areas inflate by rounding up to the nearest hundred... so a resort with a vertical of 513 ft usually gets reported as 600 ft. Silly, huh?

 

Anyway, thx guys, and keep on spreading the word

 

Frank

 

:rock

Posted

Killington Ski Resort, Vermont,1720

 

they advertise a 3050' drop on their website, and we thought bear creek was off with their measurements..

Posted

Well that 1720 figure I think is off the K1...you can ski te entire 3k but it involves some skating and poling.

I've done the entire 3k at killington. On a snowboard it can be slow and painful, but overall it's one long ass run.

Posted

I've also doe the entire 3k at Kmart nothing like the sustained 3-4k you get at jackson hole.

 

Yeah I can imagine 3-4k of a decent pitch can get tiring. I've gotta get to JHole one of these days. It's #1 on my hit list.

Posted

Yeah I can imagine 3-4k of a decent pitch can get tiring. I've gotta get to JHole one of these days. It's #1 on my hit list.

 

Uhh...yea. The Hobacks are tiring. With the conditions we had last year, the Hobacks took a good 30-45 minutes. I've done them when the conditions were much nicer, and it still is a workout.

Posted

Uhh...yea. The Hobacks are tiring. With the conditions we had last year, the Hobacks took a good 30-45 minutes. I've done them when the conditions were much nicer, and it still is a workout.

 

you big baby. htfu

Posted (edited)

OK, here's the real scoop on some local verticals. I generously estimated the top and bottom of lifts to give the areas the most optomistic verticals.

 

Camelback claims 800'

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Actual is about 780'. Not to much of a stretch. I'd let them slide and round to 800'.

 

Bear Creek claims 510'.

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Actual is about 480'. I'd let them slide with rounding to 500' but where did they get the 510'? I'm guessing it is leftover from when it was Doe Mountain.

 

Shawnee claims 700'

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Actual is 660'. 700' is a bit of a stretch.

 

Big Boulder claims 475'.

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Actual is about 400'. I'm sure this exaggeration goes back to at least the '60's.

 

Spring Mountain claims 420'.

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Actual is 360'. Their Rock Top chair has a vertical of 343' according to skilifts.org. My thinking is the original owners added 100' to the original side.

 

And the winner for exaggerating their vertical in PA is.....Jack Frost.

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The actual is likely less than 500' but they claim 600'. Did they just add 100'? It was even less when it originally opened.

 

One from NY. Greek Peak claims 952' :rofl

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Actual is less than 800'. They have the potential for about 832' with the expansion that they've been planning for 30+ years but to ski it you would have to traverse a lot of flat terrain.

 

I don't blame some mountains for stretching to the next 100' if they are past the X50' mark. But to add over 100 is really a stretch. Vertical is only a guide. Most people even on bigger mountains spend the day skiing a pod with much less vertical than the mountain offers. If the terrain is good and you enjoy it, who cares what the vertical is? I sometimes like lapping fun terrain on a smaller mountain.

Edited by trackbiker
Posted (edited)

You are making a HUGE assumption about the reliability of those maps.

 

Maps like that for our house show markedly different altitudes from measurements taken both with an altimeter and three different GPS units. Over 100 feet off. Those maps don't take into account minor bumps on a ridge very well, for instance. They only look at the "big picture".

 

I also notice that NONE of the PA mountains are "verified". See other sections of the country for the check marks next to the listing.

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