saltyant Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 4:51 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Does Blue have enough water for all that? Expand Probably not. It's hardly rained this year so those snowmaking retention ponds are really dry. Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 4:53 PM, saltyant said: Probably not. It's hardly rained this year so those snowmaking retention ponds are really dry. Expand I’m nervous we need rain..badly Quote
Schif Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 I'm going to guess these 49 new guns have been in the works for a while, you can't just run down to home depot and pick up one of these things. That being said, I'm surprised they aren't factoring these new snow guns into an opening plan that would get the mountain open top to bottom ASAP to deal with spacing of crowds. 1 Quote
Deleted Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 About running out of water - it has been dry. I don't think changing which guns are used will change how much water a trail needs, right? So if they don't have enough, for example, to cover Dreamweaver and Burma then that won't be because of the new guns.About an opening plan - 49 super efficient guns are probably easier to run early season than the same number of old school manual guns - just look at how they handle Valley School. So if I had to guess, since they're kind of the same guns, Burma and Valley School could open around the same time?Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 5:09 PM, IceEidolon said: About running out of water - it has been dry. I don't think changing which guns are used will change how much water a trail needs, right? So if they don't have enough, for example, to cover Dreamweaver and Burma then that won't be because of the new guns. About an opening plan - 49 super efficient guns are probably easier to run early season than the same number of old school manual guns - just look at how they handle Valley School. So if I had to guess, since they're kind of the same guns, Burma and Valley School could open around the same time? Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Expand Usually they wait longer to open the valley. Quote
skifreak Posted September 22, 2020 Author Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 3:07 PM, IceEidolon said: These look like new energy efficient guns, so hopefully Blue can put the serious firepower somewhere else and just let Burma run like Valley School does. Expand Yes, these look like TechnoAlpin low energy tower guns. Basically a newer, efficient version of a York Snow Borax tower gun like you see on paradise, razors edge etc. I haven't been to blue in over 10 years, but back then they still had the old air/water style guns on Burma. Those were a combination of home made, omichron's on towers, and some really old spraying systems style guns when they dabbled in the snowmaking business back in the late 60's/early 70's. The advantage to these new guns are they are much more efficient in air consumption. Depending what they bought, you could probably run 7-10 new ones to one old gun. Most of the TechnoAplin towers usually have a built in compressor too so they don't have to pump air up the mountain. These guns are very easy to automate, basically right off the hydrants themselves. Snow quality will be much better as well. 8 Quote
Deleted Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 I think for the older guns being replaced it's more like 15:1 or 20:1 replacement. That's why I think they'll be almost a whole trail ahead, that's how much air they're saving. Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk 4 Quote
skifreak Posted September 22, 2020 Author Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 6:09 PM, IceEidolon said: I think for the older guns being replaced it's more like 15:1 or 20:1 replacement. That's why I think they'll be almost a whole trail ahead, that's how much air they're saving. Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Expand They very well could be. They are that old that those ratios wouldn't be unheard of. Some of these new tower guns are running with only 25cfm of air now. It is amazing. 1 Quote
Shadows Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 Maybe they'll put the old guns on barbs bush. Quote
theprogram4 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 6:35 PM, Shadows said: Maybe they'll put the old guns on barbs bush. Expand That trail will never open under current management. Not even saying that to diss barb or blue, just seems like it’s not financially feasible 1 Quote
Deleted Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 Blue's FB in the comments said they needed to build a new pumphouse to do the new trail. I'm guessing that's where the holdup is, since Burma's getting thousands of feet of pipe and ten or twenty more guns than the new trail would take.Right now all their new guns - Tubing, Valley School, Burma - haven't been at the top of the MTN. Maybe they don't think they can get enough pressure without more/better pumps?Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 6:38 PM, theprogram4 said: That trail will never open under current management. Not even saying that to diss barb or blue, just seems like it’s not financially feasible Expand When Vail buys Blue I’m sure Barbs Bush and the condos or hotel will be first thing on the agenda and the waterpark. Quote
Shadows Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 Watch reilly buy it for city center and give free season passes to residents. Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 8:34 PM, Shadows said: Watch reilly buy it for city center and give free season passes to residents. Expand He already gives free Allentown art museum memberships that 99% don’t use. JB is 100% in residential and commercial real estate development and management so I doubt it. Quote
toast21602 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Will Blue test the guns for stoke this week? Will Zee Lights be on? 1 Quote
Benm Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 8:24 PM, toast21602 said: Will Blue test the guns for stoke this week? Will Zee Lights be on Expand 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 1 Quote
toast21602 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 8:31 PM, Benm said: 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Expand My exact feelings. We could all use some winter stoke! Quote
theprogram4 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 The graff community has joined the skiing community to pray for snow Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 8:24 PM, toast21602 said: Will Blue test the guns for stoke this week? Will Zee Lights be on? Expand Yup Tuesday and Wednesday nights. They might be able to get a little production out. Barb and Jim if you’re reading this try for a valley opening..will be less hectic and more socially distant. Can open tuts to lazy to falls to homestretch. 1 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 9:38 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Yup Tuesday and Wednesday nights. They might be able to get a little production out. Barb and Jim if you’re reading this try for a valley opening..will be less hectic and more socially distant. Can open tuts to lazy to falls to homestretch. Expand Yes @RootDKJ lazy. You ready?? Quote
Deleted Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Anyone got eyes on the lights tonight what with the weather coming? I only see their lot lights.Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Quote
Benm Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 11:32 PM, IceEidolon said: Anyone got eyes on the lights tonight what with the weather coming? I only see their lot lights. Sent from my XP8800 using Tapatalk Expand I keep checking the cams but I dunno if anything's gonna happen tonight. Do you think it'll be cold enough? Quote
toast21602 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 11:37 PM, Benm said: I keep checking the cams but I dunno if anything's gonna happen tonight. Do you think it'll be cold enough? Expand Tomorrow night is my guess. 2 Quote
Deleted Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Depends - Palmerton shows maybe a couple hours just before dawn, but they might get a degree or two colder up above the clouds, or the humidity could stay too high and skunk 'em. Tomorrow and Wednesday are the real opportunities. Or they might be out doing setup/system checks. Really it's borderline enough they easily might not go for it tonight, and I forgot that webcams exist so I asked here. 1 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 11:37 PM, Benm said: I keep checking the cams but I dunno if anything's gonna happen tonight. Do you think it'll be cold enough? Expand No, are you starting to get anxious to ski?? Remember to bring some cream pies..I’ll help you distribute them. Edited November 16, 2020 by GrilledSteezeSandwich 1 Quote
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