GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 No water park at bear creek but they have a spa and a pool. Blue began building a $30 million dollar water park about four years ago. They cleared the land, had a rendering of what it would look like but what I heard is that the bank wouldn't give funding for the waterpark unless they had a hotel. I have heard the condos were going to have fractional ownership. That wouldn't work for most blue mountain skiers and riders because a 1/4 share in the condos would mean just 3-4 weeks of available use during ski season. They really need a hotel for the wedding venue. I bet they lose out on available weddings because there's no lodging on the premises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCat Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I bet you could plunk down some cute tiny houses up at the summit with great views. Be a unique wedding venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I bet you could plunk down some cute tiny houses up at the summit with great views. Be a unique wedding venue. Blue already has a unique wedding venue and there are already tiny houses around the valley lodge. Anybody ever get anything from the fish and chips stand lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Blue already has a unique wedding venue and there are already tiny houses around the valley lodge. Anybody ever get anything from the fish and chips stand lol Do those things ever open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Do those things ever open? Maybe weekend afternoons but I'm not there then. They used to have a coffee stand that didn't open until 10am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFskiDan Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 So, a friend of mine told me the condos go in if the pipeline goes in. Dont get too wound up about that one though, i dont consider it "insider information". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/05/vote_set_on_ski-in_ski-out_lod.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFskiDan Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 They should build the hotel at the bottom like they original planned 10 years ago. Then no issues with the Appalachian trail and easier access to the six pack and lower lot scene 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycore Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 They should build the hotel at the bottom like they original planned 10 years ago. Then no issues with the Appalachian trail and easier access to the six pack and lower lot scene The only upside I see to a hotel being at the bottom is that they'd probably pave the lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 The only upside I see to a hotel being at the bottom is that they'd probably pave the lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's an upside??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoralas Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/05/vote_set_on_ski-in_ski-out_lod.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Some interesting things from that article: I hadn't seen that particular artist's rendering before, and it was interesting to get a better look at the location. From the pics I had seen in the past and the description, I thought it was more of an expansion/revamp of the upper lodge to extend up the hill, and I couldn't quite figure out how it was incorporated. This is the first I've seen mention of a split concept between timeshare and regular hotel rooms. From the story it looks like they are planning at least 55 regular hotel rooms and up to 80 timeshare rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 I'm glad there are gonna be regular hotel rooms. That's what they need. I know they lose out on wedding business due to lack of nearby lodging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momskeeztoo Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Not sure if timeshare such a great idea. If they just had regular hotel rooms, they would probably be booked solid every weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Not sure if timeshare such a great idea. If they just had regular hotel rooms, they would probably be booked solid every weekend. I think they want to sell condos and timeshares to get money upfront. I wonder what the hotel rooms will go for? I'm thinking in the $150-$250 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Joe Forte who is a ski instructor at Blue also has a pretty lively discussion on his Facebook page about the proposed condos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 ok. There's a lot of opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootDKJ Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/05/poll_allow_ski_resort_expansio.html#incart_river_home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbike-ski Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 i thought they were going to be set up like hope lake/greek peak - fractional condo suites. We have a 1/4 share so we "own" it 13 weeks/year. Its like a hotel room in that they are all furnished the same and we don't store anything there so when it's ours and we don't have it reserved its rented out as a hotel room and we get the revenue less taxes and fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 i thought they were going to be set up like hope lake/greek peak - fractional condo suites. We have a 1/4 share so we "own" it 13 weeks/year. Its like a hotel room in that they are all furnished the same and we don't store anything there so when it's ours and we don't have it reserved its rented out as a hotel room and we get the revenue less taxes and fees. I think it's going more towards a combination of quarter shares and hotel rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride Delaware ? Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 As an avid backpacker and hiker, I have no problems with the hotel being placed near the trail. The trail goes through many towns much more developed than this. It's just a fancy way to justify them simply not wanting a hotel. It's not moving the trail, so I don't see the issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted June 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Joe Forte continues to stress how important the hotel will be for the local economy saying it will add up to one million in additional tax revenues 75% of which going to the local school district which I imagine is Palmerton. I have no idea where the million in tax revenue comes from just from one 120 room hotel..doesn't seem plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifreak Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Joe Forte continues to stress how important the hotel will be for the local economy saying it will add up to one million in additional tax revenues 75% of which going to the local school district which I imagine is Palmerton. I have no idea where the million in tax revenue comes from just from one 120 room hotel..doesn't seem plausible. $1 million per year does seem high, unless they are also factoring in hotel tax etc. in addition to the property tax. To put it in perspective, I know the taxes at the big new car dealerships in Lehigh County are crazy high. Just picking 3 random ones on Lehigh Street in Allentown one pays $150,000 per year another $100,000 and another $67,000. So a hotel is probably up there based on square footage and value. I'm not familiar with Carbon County taxes, but I'd image at least the school district taxes are higher compared to what they are in the Lehigh Valley if I had to guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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