GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 As was said before maybe get a second job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 yea yea. if i had a second job i wouldve missed out on two jobs i wanted to do - that i did. so idk. kind of hard to say to a client who calls that you have to wait two weeks for that one day off to be approved so I can clean their windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poconoceancity Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I've had a second job the entire time and always made it work. You could too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 What was your schedule like? And what was the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poconoceancity Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Monday to Friday 745-245. September through June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ok. My potential employment is 9/hr retail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ok. My potential employment is 9/hr retail You could probably do warehouse work for a few bucks an hour more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootDKJ Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 No problem with taxes. They should be higher. We need to redistribute more money from wealthy people to needy people. Do you voluntarily pay extra taxes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski2Live Live2Ski Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) No but I voluntarily donate money to charity, don't seek tax breaks, and vote for the candidates most likely to raise taxes. I will be more active in seeking to avoid federal taxes starting this year as I believe the federal government will become purely evil in 6 weeks. I don't want to support the 4th Reich. Edited December 7, 2016 by Ski2Live Live2Ski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Wow Comrade Ski lol....I love paying 3-4 months salary every year to a giant Abyss...not.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoralas Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 No problem with taxes. They should be higher. We need to redistribute more money from wealthy people to needy people. We do. They're called "wages." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski2Live Live2Ski Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Folks without jobs need food and shelter and doctors too. And folks with low paying jobs need enough money for those things as well. Edited December 8, 2016 by Ski2Live Live2Ski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoralas Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Folks without jobs need food and shelter and doctors too. And folks with low paying jobs need enough money for those things as well. "Providing basic life essentials" and "redistributing wealth" are two very different goals. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Folks without jobs need food and shelter and doctors too. And folks with low paying jobs need enough money for those things as well. If the government is just gonna give poors free money why bother working. While I don't want people to starve. Was nice of Obama to give people free phones...the only problem is many people develop a sense of entitlement. Many times I've had families come in my office and say,"our loved one had no money and the funeral home donated the funeral and the cemetery donated a plot, can you donate a tombstone". If it's an extenuating circumstance like an Eagle Scout project or an infant death I usually hook me up with a stock piece but just cause someone is poor doesn't mean in my opinion they should get free stuff. I typically say we have some markers on the side of the building that I can give a discount on and when they see a basic 24x12" lawn marker they say...,"no we want something nice". Often these people have nice clothes and an SUV.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 can you stop calling them 'poors'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 can you stop calling them 'poors'? No that's what I call poor people... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski2Live Live2Ski Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Yes there are limits to how much should be provided to needy people and it is worth making sure the system is not ripe for abuse. My view is that we are not doing enough. I would also like to see more government spending on infrastructure repairs and improvements and believe that taxes should be raised in a progressive fashion to fund that. Edited December 8, 2016 by Ski2Live Live2Ski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I feel like if taxes are higher then the average person/family has less disposable income and with less disposable income they won't buy is much which in effect hurts both small and large businesses. I had a debate with somebody who was pro $15 an hour minimum wage earlier. Was an interesting discussion. I will never blame or fault people who are on welfare...even if they have a side hustle that's off the books and they drive an Escalade and wear Air Jordan's...even if they use food stamps for cake and red bull...I blame the system not the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoralas Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 No but I voluntarily donate money to charity, don't seek tax breaks, and vote for the candidates most likely to raise taxes. I will be more active in seeking to avoid federal taxes starting this year as I believe the federal government will become purely evil in 6 weeks. I don't want to support the 4th Reich. So you think politicians should raise taxes on a group of people that don't approve of the way the government spends their tax money, but this year you are going to actively do all you can to avoid paying taxes because you don't approve of the way the government is going to spend your tax money. Your opinions cease to have any value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Maybe you can skip on taxes like the pumpkin-elect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Whatever. We can start by not arresting people for being poor in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Whatever. We can start by not arresting people for being poor in the first place. How so?? You mean if they get arrested and don't pay their fines??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski2Live Live2Ski Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) So you think politicians should raise taxes on a group of people that don't approve of the way the government spends their tax money, but this year you are going to actively do all you can to avoid paying taxes because you don't approve of the way the government is going to spend your tax money. Your opinions cease to have any value. To be clear, I am going to continue to pay my taxes. I will be less happy about it and will be more aggressive in finding legal deductions I can take. I do not advocate that anybody should pay more than they are required by law to pay. I will be decreasing donations to charity and redirecting those funds to groups determined to organize resistence to the incoming fourth reich administration, as I believe efforts to undermine this administration are the most important way to improve our society for the next four years. Edited December 8, 2016 by Ski2Live Live2Ski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMSKI Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I can't believe there was a murder at mountain creek back in the day! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRacer Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 No but I voluntarily donate money to charity, don't seek tax breaks, and vote for the candidates most likely to raise taxes. I will be more active in seeking to avoid federal taxes starting this year as I believe the federal government will become purely evil in 6 weeks. I don't want to support the 4th Reich. Here we go again with the Nazi shit. SMH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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