Ski Season 17 - 18 thread

[eaf]

12 minutes ago, AtomicSkier said:

My 184cm/98mm underfoot/27m radius daily drivers ski "bigger" than my 193cm/119mm/30m radius power boards.  Things like tip & tail rocker have a profound impact on how a ski behaves on the snow.

How? Isn't the rocker just a gimmick to make skis float better and reduce edge contact length? Yeah, it helps to turn by making it easier to skid the skis.

How do you maneuver with a 30m radius ski on a busy slope?

[AtomicSkier]

6 minutes ago, eaf said:

How? Isn't the rocker just a gimmick to make skis float better and reduce edge contact length? Yeah, it helps to turn by making it easier to skid the skis.

How do you maneuver with a 30m radius ski on a busy slope?

I'm not a fan of rocker (or even early rise tip/tails) for groomer skis, but I know why manufacturers do it.  For intermediate skiers it makes the skis easier to turn.  My big skis are full rockered (no camber under foot) so it's exaggerated, but having a ski that's already already in the shape of the turn means once it gets up on edge and the full running length of the ski engages with the snow means very little effort is required.  They're amazing in powder, but I can rip them on groomers, too.

Compare my fully rockered 30m pow skis to my 27m "classic" fully cambered ski, and the classic ski requires a lot more muscling to make the same turn.

 

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

My pow skis are great in spring snow..

[indiggio]

8 hours ago, toast21602 said:

Just looking through some stuff and found this again. Good times 4 seasons ago.

 

https://vimeo.com/86718006

TFTI

[JFskiDan]

9 hours ago, toast21602 said:

Just looking through some stuff and found this again. Good times 4 seasons ago.

 

https://vimeo.com/86718006

Its going to be really hard to top that day at Blue Mountain.  Maybe this year.  

[indiggio]

36 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

Its going to be really hard to top that day at Blue Mountain.  Maybe this year.  

Need a good multiple storm year.

[AtomicSkier]

2 hours ago, JFskiDan said:

Its going to be really hard to top that day at Blue Mountain.  Maybe this year.  

It was literally the perfect storm.  8", ice layer, and then a shit load of snow on top of that. 

[RootDKJ]

9 hours ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

My pow skis are great in spring snow..

I love spring snow.  The parking lot is good in the spring too.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

20 minutes ago, RootDKJ said:

I love spring snow.  The parking lot is good in the spring too.

It hasn't been spring snow except for one day but the parking lot has been full on spring mode except without NMSki and Johnny Law

[toast21602]

Just now, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

It hasn't been spring snow except for one day but the parking lot has been full on spring mode except without NMSki and Johnny Law

I miss them in the lot. Glad I've seen them around between this season and last.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

4 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

I miss them in the lot. Glad I've seen them around between this season and last.

I was gonna see them at the bar night that never happened wahahahaha 

[toast21602]

1 minute ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

I was gonna see them at the bar night that never happened wahahahaha 

But that is where I saw them? 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

5 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

But that is where I saw them? 

Oh Lordy!!!  

[toast21602]

Just now, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Oh Lordy!!!  

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

7 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

That made me smile..thanks for that..

[toast21602]

4 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

That made me smile..thanks for that..

I give you permission to use that... just like my ilikeicecream photos

[RootDKJ]

1 hour ago, toast21602 said:

I miss them in the lot. Glad I've seen them around between this season and last.

+1

[eaf]

13 hours ago, toast21602 said:

Wide skis doesn't mean they aren't good on groomers. They are 108mm. I have 115mm and 95mm as well as some park skis that come out once a year and slalom skis.

Nice collection. And good for me, since so you should know how they ski in comparison... Do you notice in general that fatter skis have worse edge grip than SL skis? I skied my 70mm back to back with two other wider pairs (still a far cry from 115mm) once and was unpleasantly surprised by how they constantly wanted to wander off to the side from underneath me. And I knew for sure that they were quite sharp and with decent 0.5/3 bevels... Yeah, they were skiable, but in a more gentle, cautious way. It took many runs to find the right balance of force to maintain control, and it made my legs hurt a lot in the process. I simply could never learn to fully trust them. IDK whether they were just bad pairs or that's a general rule, the wider the ski, the less the edge grip. What do you think?

[eaf]

13 hours ago, AtomicSkier said:

I'm not a fan of rocker (or even early rise tip/tails) for groomer skis, but I know why manufacturers do it.  For intermediate skiers it makes the skis easier to turn.  My big skis are full rockered (no camber under foot) so it's exaggerated, but having a ski that's already already in the shape of the turn means once it gets up on edge and the full running length of the ski engages with the snow means very little effort is required.  They're amazing in powder, but I can rip them on groomers, too.

Compare my fully rockered 30m pow skis to my 27m "classic" fully cambered ski, and the classic ski requires a lot more muscling to make the same turn.

I've seen a few guys on fully rockered skis while waiting for a lift. It looked like the area of contact hardly extended beyond the bindings. How does it feel to ski slow speed or straight on such skis?

I also saw a guy, perhaps on park skis, perhaps on fully rockered ones on Midway last weekend skiing it like a border. He got to the middle, then turned sideways, almost backward, then again forward. And it wasn't that hard braking skidding turn, it was done with no effort, like fooling around.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I straight run on my 193 length 119 underfoot shiros and they're great and when it's crowded can make lots of little doodly turns. Wider stance is key I notice a lot of older skiers have a very narrow stance 

Edited December 5, 2017 by GrilledSteezeSandwich

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I haven't been on any skis under 88 underfoot in the last decade. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

 

Most of the PASRs have fat skis for out west.  I had Nordica blowers for about five years and have had my shiros for almost four years.  I ski them about half the time at Blue.  The only thing they don't excel at is when it's firm cord.  Last year in Jackson hole there wasn't much new snow and I was on my mantras out there a lot. 

Edited December 5, 2017 by GrilledSteezeSandwich

[theprogram4]

Just now, eaf said:

I've seen a few guys on fully rockered skis while waiting for a lift. It looked like the area of contact hardly extended beyond the bindings. How does it feel to ski slow speed or straight on such skis?

I also saw a guy, perhaps on park skis, perhaps on fully rockered ones on Midway last weekend skiing it like a border. He got to the middle, then turned sideways, almost backward, then again forward. And it wasn't that hard braking skidding turn, it was done with no effort, like fooling around.

mantras are the best ski

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Just now, theprogram4 said:

mantras are the best ski

I hope to get on them this weekend. 

[guitar73]

I prefer skis on the narrower end of the spectrum. I have fully rockered volkl rtm-81's that I love. I've taken them out west and wasn't disappointed.  my other skis are blizzard brahma sp (88 mm, tip and tail rocker). had those out last weekend and they killed it....looking forward to seeing what these do in "the greatest snow on earth" in march.  in the end.....ski whatever makes you feel happy!