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1 minute ago, eaf said:

So seeing 170 again was kind of surprising.

Ok, honestly, how much of a difference is 170 vs 177 going to make? And I'm not being smart, I am asking seriously. I loved the 170s when I demoed them so that's what I went with.

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3 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Did you mount the binders yourself??  

No.

2 minutes ago, RootDKJ said:

What shop?  What price?  Details are missing. 

Ski Valley in Danville for $599. They mounted the bindings and waxed them.

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4 minutes ago, Shadows said:

Why wouldnt you post the real pics first lol

glad for you salty. Even if you make poor decisions its nice to have new gear.

I wanted to see if you guys would notice. Jeeze, I didn't mean to trigger you. =P

Thanks. I'm a little upset right now, but I think I'll live. I agonized a long time over buying a 56 cm vs. a 58 cm bike frame length. I have both now and I don't notice a difference whatsoever. So I based skis on the same logic. Whether it's ideal or not, it's too late now. All I know is that I demoed the 170's, skied like a bad-ass, and bought the same ones I demoed. You guys provided great advice on what type of ski I should get, so thanks a lot!

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Posted
9 minutes ago, saltyant said:

Ok, honestly, how much of a difference is 170 vs 177 going to make? And I'm not being smart, I am asking seriously. I loved the 170s when I demoed them so that's what I went with.

I'm not blaming you for choosing 170 over 177. I said that I find it's interesting how you while listening pretty closely to what other people say and remembering that at the right times, held your ground and bought something else despite all the advice. Frankly, I have doubts that you've just started skiing. Some terminology, the infamous annual Vermont trips, you're not afraid to portrait yourself as a total noob... Just saying.

Posted
3 minutes ago, eaf said:

held your ground and bought something else despite all the advice

I am almost certain that Atomic told me to get something "170-175cm long, 80-90mm width". So I found a great deal within those ranges.

Posted
1 minute ago, RidgeRacer said:

And yes the 7cm does make a difference. Otherwise they wouldn't make them in different sizes.

Enjoy your new skis salty

Thanks. But what more of a difference can they make for me personally, if I found the 170s to perfectly cut through all the slop and ice last week? I don't think the skis could have been anymore stable, and I think they're the appropriate balance between stability and ease of making turns..

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1 minute ago, saltyant said:

I am almost certain that Atomic told me to get something "170-175cm long, 80-90mm width". So I found a great deal within those ranges.

Nah, this is a very GS board. Big everything. You still sure you're getting that BM season pass?

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19 minutes ago, eaf said:

Nah, this is a very GS board. Big everything. You still sure you're getting that BM season pass?

What do you mean by this is a very GS board in terms of 170 vs 177? I am agonizing over this potentially wrong decision and having buyer's remorse. This is another time when I'll Google appropriate ski lengths obsessively to justify my purchase, and then decide I chose poorly, but will enjoy the skis anyway.

 I am not sure where I'm getting a pass next season.

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Posted (edited)

Toast suggested snowblades from the beginning so I averaged those in to all your other suggestions for length.

Case closed. Ski selection process complete, thanks everyone. Admins, you may now lock this thread and preserve it for posterity and future generations.

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27 minutes ago, eaf said:

Nah, this is a very GS board. Big everything. You still sure you're getting that BM season pass?

It's because we're all pretty competent skiers.  If you can turn a 27m radius ski better than most can turn a 17m ski, why wouldn't you?  I'm a pretty decent slalom skier and can hold my own on my SL boards, but they're not a good Blue Mountain ski.  Too narrow, short, and turny for the variable conditions that one encounters at Blue. 

I skied WC race stock skis at Blue for years.  I now ski a 98mm underfoot ski.  I can tell you which one I have more fun on 99% of the days.

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What do you mean by this is a very GS board in terms of 170 vs 177? I am agonizing over this potentially wrong decision and having buyer's remorse.

What I meant is that long and fat skis are definitely in favor here.

As for 170 vs 177 you likely did the right thing. Ideally you should've tried 177 and perhaps other brands too, but since you haven't, sticking to what you know is the best.

Shorter skis will force you to keep your balance, so if you're truly an advanced beginner (or something along those lines) as GSS has called you, you'll benefit from this. Generally the longer the ski in a lineup the stiffer they are. This together with increased radius means they'll need higher speeds to be bent. People here come in the mornings when the mountain is empty, and they ski tall terrain of BM, so they have no problem with long and fat. But you on a busy weekend at CB may simply not have enough space to get up to speed to bend a longer ski. Hence my remark about a season pass at Blue.

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8 minutes ago, AtomicSkier said:

It's because we're all pretty competent skiers.  If you can turn a 27m radius ski better than most can turn a 17m ski, why wouldn't you?  I'm a pretty decent slalom skier and can hold my own on my SL boards, but they're not a good Blue Mountain ski.  Too narrow, short, and turny for the variable conditions that one encounters at Blue. 

I skied WC race stock skis at Blue for years.  I now ski a 98mm underfoot ski.  I can tell you which one I have more fun on 99% of the days.

Right Atomic. But the truth is that I'm absolutely nowhere near your guys' ability. So I'll run these 170cm skis for a few years, and if I outgrow them I'll upgrade again.

Advice I picked up somewhere is that the ski length should be somewhere between your chin and the top of your head; unless you're an advanced or expert skier, which I am not. My newly purchased 170's fall almost exactly in the middle of that range.

Moving from beginner to intermediate skis, I immediately noticed a large difference in the effort it takes to turn. But I felt that at this point, the level of effort vs. stability trade-off seemed to work well for me on 170s. No, I did not test longer skis when I could have, but I chose to try 3 different brands instead of 3 different lengths.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, eaf said:

What I meant is that long and fat skis are definitely in favor here.

As for 170 vs 177 you likely did the right thing. Ideally you should've tried 177 and perhaps other brands too, but since you haven't, sticking to what you know is the best.

Shorter skis will force you to keep your balance, so if you're truly an advanced beginner (or something along those lines) as GSS has called you, you'll benefit from this. Generally the longer the ski in a lineup the stiffer they are. This together with increased radius means they'll need higher speeds to be bent. People here come in the mornings when the mountain is empty, and they ski tall terrain of BM, so they have no problem with long and fat. But you on a busy weekend at CB may simply not have enough space to get up to speed to bend a longer ski. Hence my remark about a season pass at Blue.

Ok. Maybe one day I'll upgrade to long and fat skis, if my abilities improve.

I skied the busiest weekends all season long last year at CB and had no collisions. Now that I'm skiing blues and blacks, I can get away from the ridiculously overcrowded green trails.

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, saltyant said:

What do you mean by this is a very GS board in terms of 170 vs 177? I am agonizing over this potentially wrong decision and having buyer's remorse. This is another time when I'll Google appropriate ski lengths obsessively to justify my purchase, and then decide I chose poorly, but will enjoy the skis anyway.

Should have got the 177s.

 

7 hours ago, saltyant said:

 I am not sure where I'm getting a pass next season.

I hear Camelback is a great place to get a season pass!

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