SallyCat Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Posted January 5, 2018 Is that that stuff companies like G-Form and Demon make body armor (formerly known as "padding") out of now? D30 or something? I have a spine protection vest and knee and elbow pads that are thin, light, and flexible, but they harden on impact so that when you fall, they offer a surprising amount of protection. Quote
indiggio Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Do people really think about resale value?? I bought Atomic jeffs old mantras for $200. Not a very good resale value on those. I beat the crap out of skis. Nobody in their right mind would by any of my old skis. 2 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, GSSucks said: Are you getting a pair? Yeah right Eaf would spend three years doing a cost benefit analysis on them 4 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, indiggio said: I beat the crap out of skis. Nobody in their right mind would by any of my old skis. How long have you had your oldest skis that you are on all the time and just replaced??? It's amazing how long skis last these days. Two decades ago skis often had delamination issues. Ryan is still skiing on Toasts old Rossis which are a solid ten years old. 1 Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GSSucks said: Are you getting a pair? LOL, no idea, honestly. They're awfully expensive, but take a look at @SallyCat, she justified buying a 2018 pair of 84mm RTMs, and it's only one step more toward justifying a Renoun. Edited January 5, 2018 by eaf Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Yeah right Eaf would spend three years doing a cost benefit analysis on them That's half the fun. Quote
GSSucks Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, eaf said: LOL, no idea, honestly. They're awfully expensive, but take a look at @SallyCat, she justified buying a 2018 pair of 84mm RTMs, and it's only one step more toward justifying a Renon. Since it seem like you have done quite a bit of research on them, how did they quantify 300% less chatter? Vibration sensors, or just marketing bullshit? 1 Quote
toast21602 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Yeah right Eaf would spend three years doing a cost benefit analysis on them LOLOL. I thought you blocked him? 1 1 Quote
toast21602 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: How long have you had your oldest skis that you are on all the time and just replaced??? It's amazing how long skis last these days. Two decades ago skis often had delamination issues. Ryan is still skiing on Toasts old Rossis which are a solid ten years old. He just bought a new pair and was out on them yesterday. He'll probably be on them this weekend (I hope) Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, GSSucks said: Since it seem like you have done quite a bit of research on them, how did they quantify 300% less chatter? Vibration sensors, or just marketing bullshit? It's interesting, right? They claim a number that's 10x more than what other companies claim when they talk about their improvements. No, I don't know how they measured it and if they ever measured it. Take a look at the video below. It's interesting to watch it by itself, just to see how skis are made in general, but something also tells me that those guys don't really have access to any lab equipment. What speaks in their favor are the reviews and their return policy. I've seen a few interesting mentions of other companies dampening methods lately. E.g. some say that a university student tested the effect of Head's intellifibers in snowboards and found that instead of damping vibrations as they were supposed to, they only exacerbated them. On the other hand putting a dampening device (like that RTM UVO) indeed helps dampening first mode of vibrations around the bindings area and is indeed improving the edge grip. Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, toast21602 said: LOLOL. I thought you blocked him? Who, me? I don't think he would find inner strength to do it. Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, eaf said: Who, me? I don't think he would find inner strength to do it. Eaf you're so vain I bet you thought that post was about you. Quote
saltyant Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SallyCat said: The shop has been great; they agreed to take them back immediately, shipping at their expense. The skis were brand new and wrapped in plastic, so the fault is Volkl's, not the shop's. Whoops, my bad. I honestly did not intend to imply that the shop you bought them from wasn't reputable, although rereading my own post, that's how it came across. What I meant to say was I'm glad I bought mine from a shop instead of online while also trying to mount the bindings myself, and I'm glad the shop that I bought them from was a reputable one. I'm glad to hear the shop you bought your RTMs from is working with you and is willing to ship them back for free. This is one major reason I prefer brick and mortar shops instead of online for items that are bulky, expensive, and may cause life-altering injuries if set up improperly by an amateur like myself. I'll accept one ding for this. Edited January 5, 2018 by saltyant Quote
saltyant Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, toast21602 said: That must be it... Say what you want, at least I don't plank on womens' skis. Quote
RootDKJ Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Do people really think about resale value?? I bought Atomic jeffs old mantras for $200. Not a very good resale value on those. Good deal. I bought mine used for $350 several years earlier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Eaf you're so vain I bet you thought that post was about you. Yeah, I sometimes struggle to find meaning or reason behind some posts here. 1 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, saltyant said: Say what you want, at least I don't plank on womens' skis. Huh??? Planking is so 2012 2 Quote
SallyCat Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Posted January 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, saltyant said: What I meant to say was I'm glad I bought mine from a shop instead of online while also trying to mount the bindings myself, and I'm glad the shop that I bought them from was a reputable one. True dat. I couldn't find a shop that had 172s in stock, so I went online. 54 minutes ago, eaf said: hey're awfully expensive, but take a look at @SallyCat, she justified buying a 2018 pair of 84mm RTMs, Ha ha, I'm not really justifying them--there's no justifying the price; I'm just saying I want them and was able to make it happen! 1 minute ago, eaf said: There goes Sally's neighborhood. ? I don't plank, nor do I ski on women's skis. Quote
saltyant Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 I can't wait for March so I can start looking for a new road bike. I wonder if I take a 56 or 58 framesize... Quote
SallyCat Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Posted January 5, 2018 Today's Flow Chart Request for Binding Help | Salty Insult (accidental/friendly fire) | Genuine Helpful Advice | 1 1 Quote
eaf Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, SallyCat said: ? I don't plank, nor do I ski on women's skis. I should've said: "There goes the Sally's thread", if it would make it any clearer. 1 Quote
RootDKJ Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 I beat the crap out of skis. Nobody in their right mind would by any of my old skis.All skis should be treated as totally disposable while skiing them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote
indiggio Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: How long have you had your oldest skis that you are on all the time and just replaced??? It's amazing how long skis last these days. Two decades ago skis often had delamination issues. Ryan is still skiing on Toasts old Rossis which are a solid ten years old. Around 13 years or so, I think. Edited January 5, 2018 by indiggio Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, saltyant said: I can't wait for March so I can start looking for a new road bike. I wonder if I take a 56 or 58 framesize... GTFO March is when you can start planning a sprig skiing trip. 1 Quote
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