Help Me Choose a VT Vehicle!

[SallyCat]

Before winter arrives I'm going to need a new car. My current '09 VW Jetta Wagon has been a trooper, but even with bomber snow tires I often spin out on hills of even moderate grade. It also has terrible ground clearance, which is a significant issue around here. Here's what I'm currently thinking of:

1. Tacoma 4x4. Great ground clearance, can throw bikes in the back, etc Lousy mileage, though?

2. Toyota Rav4: Very popular up here. Reliable, safe, decent-looking. The sensible choice?

3. Subaru Forester. A classic choice, but I know some people who have had bad experiences with reliability and maintenance costs. 

4. Something else I'm missing?

[RootDKJ]

Are you buying new or used?

[JFskiDan]

My Tacoma gets 18 mpg.  On the highway, around town, or in 4 wheel drive.  Doesnt seem to matter much.  They hold their value like crazy.  

[momskeeztoo]

I like my Honda CRV.However, its  a real pain trying to fit a bike in the back. I have s hitch and bike rack I use. Gets around 24 mpg highway. It's 2007, so maybe newer ones more efficient. 

[Shadows]

Heard nothing but great things about a suzuki sx4 😎

[trackbiker]

Just get a Subaru Outback. Subaru has the best all wheel drive system and I don't anyone who's had maintenance problems with Subaru's. I've had 3 and put over 200k miles on each with mainly basic maintenance.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/3/2018 at 12:14 PM, trackbiker said:

Just get a Subaru Outback. Subaru has the best all wheel drive system and I don't anyone who's had maintenance problems with Subaru's. I've had 3 and put over 200k miles on each with mainly basic maintenance.

 

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You’ve driven over 600k miles total??  Wow just wow. You must have a long commute. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/3/2018 at 12:07 PM, Shadows said:

Heard nothing but great things about a suzuki sx4 😎

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The Suzuki Samurai is nice.  

[GSSucks]

[SallyCat]

  On 5/3/2018 at 10:21 AM, momskeeztoo said:

I like my Honda CRV.However, its  a real pain trying to fit a bike in the back. I have s hitch and bike rack I use. Gets around 24 mpg highway. It's 2007, so maybe newer ones more efficient. 

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That's a big issue, too. Since Honda stopped making the Element and so many cars are aerodynamic/bullet-shaped now, it seems tricky to find one that will hold a bike upright w/ front wheel off, which is what I'd love to be able to do. 

[SallyCat]

  On 5/3/2018 at 12:14 PM, trackbiker said:

Just get a Subaru Outback. Subaru has the best all wheel drive system and I don't anyone who's had maintenance problems with Subaru's. I've had 3 and put over 200k miles on each with mainly basic maintenance.

 

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Forester is cheaper and has more storage capacity.

[SallyCat]

  On 5/3/2018 at 6:32 AM, RootDKJ said:

Are you buying new or used?

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I'd like to buy new, but my credit score might say otherwise.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/3/2018 at 1:23 PM, SallyCat said:

That's a big issue, too. Since Honda stopped making the Element and so many cars are aerodynamic/bullet-shaped now, it seems tricky to find one that will hold a bike upright w/ front wheel off, which is what I'd love to be able to do. 

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Don’t bikes fit inside SUVs?

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/3/2018 at 1:24 PM, SallyCat said:

I'd like to buy new, but my credit score might say otherwise.

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If it’s over 700 no issues.  Heck mine was in the 600s when I got my current car and I maybe pay $16 more a month than if my credit was A+

[NMSKI]

You need a Subaru Brat.  Great ground clearance, can fit the bike in back plus 2 passengers with death wishes!

[SallyCat]

  On 5/3/2018 at 1:48 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Don’t bikes fit inside SUVs?

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Yeah on their side; I’d like to rig a fork-mounted rack to the floor and have the bike standing up

[toast21602]

  On 5/3/2018 at 3:34 PM, NMSKI said:

You need a Subaru Brat.  Great ground clearance, can fit the bike in back plus 2 passengers with death wishes!

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A classic.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/3/2018 at 3:34 PM, NMSKI said:

You need a Subaru Brat.  Great ground clearance, can fit the bike in back plus 2 passengers with death wishes!

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Badass

[SallyCat]

  On 5/3/2018 at 5:32 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Badass

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Those seats. In the winter. Savage.

[eaf]

I would try to avoid anything that has CVT in it. Which eliminates CRV, RAV4 hybrid and even Subaru, unless you import a stick from Canada.

[Shadows]

new ford ranger?

[trackbiker]

  On 5/4/2018 at 12:19 PM, eaf said:

I would try to avoid anything that has CVT in it. Which eliminates CRV, RAV4 hybrid and even Subaru, unless you import a stick from Canada.

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Subaru Forester is available in a stick.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 5/4/2018 at 12:19 PM, eaf said:

I would try to avoid anything that has CVT in it. Which eliminates CRV, RAV4 hybrid and even Subaru, unless you import a stick from Canada.

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What’s wrong with CVT?  I thought it makes automatic transmission vehicles more fuel efficient.  Eaf have fun in Colorado and post a report. 

[indiggio]

Our Subie wagon has CVT and never had a problem with it in the snow and makes acceleration smooth, no gear shift jerk.

 

[Shadows]

Its not a real drivetrain. Like driving a snowmobile. 

You want gears and shit.