Article on PA improvements

[saltyant]

2 hours ago, enjoralas said:

Post by them on their Facebook page. Pharaoh will host a jump line

Thanks. Pharaoh's my least favorite trail so no big loss.

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

6 hours ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

They get up early for school. Getting up early for skiing is better. They’ll love the empty early runs. 

They get out the door somewhere between 805 (if taking bus) and 835 for school. That wont help much.

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

1 hour ago, saltyant said:

Thanks. Pharaoh's my least favorite trail so no big loss.

For me it is pretty key to have more than one run with some incline to it off the only left that accesses their full vertical. Lapping Cliff would get old a lot quicker than alternating them.

[saltyant]

45 minutes ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

For me it is pretty key to have more than one run with some incline to it off the only left that accesses their full vertical. Lapping Cliff would get old a lot quicker than alternating them.

Pharaoh has that turn and it usually has moguls. I don't do moguls. Cliffhanger is the # 1 trail in the world!

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

13 minutes ago, saltyant said:

Pharaoh has that turn and it usually has moguls. I don't do moguls. Cliffhanger is the # 1 trail in the world!

Wow isn’t cliffhanger the first double black diamond you experienced?

[saltyant]

3 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Wow isn’t cliffhanger the first double black diamond you experienced?

Probably but not 100% sure. I've been to so many mountains they all kind of run together.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

39 minutes ago, saltyant said:

Probably but not 100% sure. I've been to so many mountains they all kind of run together.

I bet you’ve been to more places than Johnny law and Matt edge combined 

[saltyant]

7 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

I bet you’ve been to more places than Johnny law and Matt edge combined 

Bear Creek, Blue, Boulder, Camelback, Eagle Rock, Elk, Jack Frost, Killington, Montage, Roundtop, Seven Springs, Shawnee, Spring, and Stowe. I think that's the only 14 I've been to.

Trying for Mountain Creek this year to make 15.

Edited November 4, 2018 by saltyant

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ok.

[indiggio]

12 hours ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

They get out the door somewhere between 805 (if taking bus) and 835 for school. That wont help much.

They'll slog out to the car and sleep all the way there.

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

Seems to me Cliffhanger usually has more moguls than Pharaohs.

Not that either tend to have anything more than mini-moguls.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Neither are mogul runs. Salty is probably talking about push piles. 

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

42 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Neither are mogul runs. Salty is probably talking about push piles. 

Push piles are how natural bumps start, no?Neither is a seeded mogul run. 

[indiggio]

16 minutes ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

Push piles are how natural bumps start, no?Neither is a seeded mogul run. 

Just skiing/boarding on the snow is how natural bumps form, which in turn (no pun intended) creates the push piles.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Decent bump runs need to be seeded in PA as the terrain isn’t steep enough for the bumps to form naturally unless there is a ton of natural snow. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Push piles are usually after an icy spot. 

[mbike-ski]

1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Decent bump runs need to be seeded in PA as the terrain isn’t steep enough for the bumps to form naturally unless there is a ton of natural snow. 

the exception being tunkhannock at elk in good snow seasons

[saltyant]

12 minutes ago, mbike-ski said:

the exception being tunkhannock at elk in good snow seasons

I have PTSD from that run. Tried it once last year and the moguls are size of yurts. Never again! Thought my RTMs would bend and become disformed.

Edited November 5, 2018 by saltyant

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Decent bump runs need to be seeded in PA as the terrain isn’t steep enough for the bumps to form naturally unless there is a ton of natural snow. 

I an certainly not a bump maven, but I personally very much prefer the bumps that form naturally at CB and Montage to the seeded runs.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

44 minutes ago, mbike-ski said:

the exception being tunkhannock at elk in good snow seasons

I was talking about PA not Vermont. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

24 minutes ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

I an certainly not a bump maven, but I personally very much prefer the bumps that form naturally at CB and Montage to the seeded runs.

Cause they’re easier and not as tight. 

[indiggio]

25 minutes ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

I an certainly not a bump maven, but I personally very much prefer the bumps that form naturally at CB and Montage to the seeded runs.

Most likely because they're made by others making similar turns, while seeded bumps are the opposite, set at a fixed distance forcing you to make turns where you typically aren't used to and/or at a much higher rate.

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

Glad to hear there is a good reason for preferring natural bumps. Tailor made for a skier like me is just exactly perfect.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Ski2Live Live2Ski

[indiggio]

52 minutes ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

Glad to hear there is a good reason for preferring natural bumps. Tailor made for a skier like me is just exactly perfect.

I prefer natural bumps because the make you have to think about where you're gonna make your turns as opposed to seeded bumps that just let you get into a monotonous rhythm.
I'll ski either, but I'll take a good dumping and the natural bumps that follow until they groom the life out of them.

 

[Shadows]

Well im ready to slay some bumps