GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, theprogram4 said: a few hours ago they posted a video in a comment showing light drizzle at the mountain. i think it was to prove to us that it did indeed rain there at some point There were a couple of rain drops in Allentown today under .01” Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, enjoralas said: Jesus. Has it gotten this far? That was almost a negative word about Blue. I’ve always criticized their social media..they could at least go out on the mountain for ten minutes a day and post some pics and videos. It’s just we’re stuck with them. No other decent places to ski around here. At least nowhere I’d want to ski regularly at. Edited March 29, 2019 by GrilledSteezeSandwich Quote
RidgeRacer Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 Look at the bright side. Didn't Blue open first this season? CB was a week or two later if I recall. 2 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, RidgeRacer said: Look at the bright side. Didn't Blue open first this season? CB was a week or two later if I recall. Doesn’t matter Blue should open earlier than camelback and close later. The old blue did. Quote
RootDKJ Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, RidgeRacer said: Look at the bright side. Didn't Blue open first this season? CB was a week or two later if I recall. First to open, first to close is Vails new marketing slogan. 1 1 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, RootDKJ said: First to open, first to close is Vails new marketing slogan. Where did you see that? Vail is open mid November to mid April. I believe they are extending their season a week this year. Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 Shawnee is already closed. I don’t know about bear creek. I know when bear creek is closed TheDude4Bides is lurking Quote
toast21602 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 Would have been a nice afternoon to be at Blue... 1 Quote
eaf Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Doesn’t matter Blue should open earlier than camelback and close later. The old blue did. You sound overly depressed today. Did you buy the pass yet?? Would suck if you'd miss the last remaining quantity on the last day of the season, would have to go for CB Value Pass, and I'd have one less familiar character to see on the mountain. Btw, should that ever happen, remember, there is still MC with its three peaks. Edited March 29, 2019 by eaf Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, eaf said: You sound overly depressed today. Did you buy the pass yet?? Would suck if you'd miss the last remaining quantity on the last day of the season, would have to go for CB Value Pass, and I'd have one less familiar character to see on the mountain. Btw, should that ever happen, remember, there is still MC with its three peaks. I’m buying pass when I return home from skiing tomorrow. Price goes up April 1 Quote
RootDKJ Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Where did you see that? Vail is open mid November to mid April. I believe they are extending their season a week this year. I made it up Quote
indiggio Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Vail is open mid November to mid April. I believe they are extending their season a week this year. Take it to the Park City forum... 2 1 Quote
momskeeztoo Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 I’m sure Blue has lost money all week. On Wednesday I saw a few on rental skis, so they may have sold a few tickets. Thursday we literally had our own private mountain. Must be next to impossible to turn a profit at a ski area any more. Liability mostly, I would guess. 1 Quote
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, momskeeztoo said: I’m sure Blue has lost money all week. On Wednesday I saw a few on rental skis, so they may have sold a few tickets. Thursday we literally had our own private mountain. Must be next to impossible to turn a profit at a ski area any more. Liability mostly, I would guess. I just couldn’t imagine being in the ski resort business. The payroll, insurance and utility expenses are sky high. Imagine the workman’s compensation just for the snowmakers and groomers. The cash flow is all over the place..even a place like Jackson hole finds it in their best interest to get on a multi mountain pass like the Ikon to boost cash flow and hedge against a bad season. My business does great but we need to increase sales every year to make up for all of our expenses rising every year which gasp means price increases. Last year I bucked the trend and didn’t raise prices and was up double digits..so all good..if down with no price increase I have to take a pay cut or give employees jelly of the month club membership for their Xmas bonus. It’s the gift that keeps giving Clark..thank god I don’t give employees gift cards. Quote
eaf Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 5 hours ago, momskeeztoo said: I’m sure Blue has lost money all week. On Wednesday I saw a few on rental skis, so they may have sold a few tickets. Thursday we literally had our own private mountain. Must be next to impossible to turn a profit at a ski area any more. Liability mostly, I would guess. What you're saying would be true and relevant if they also weren't selling season passes. Once they start doing it, all talks about one or two weeks being non profitable are moot. They didn't do a thing yet to justify me paying them for the 20/21 pass, so I feel at a great loss already. 2 Quote
enjoralas Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 4 hours ago, eaf said: What you're saying would be true and relevant if they also weren't selling season passes. Once they start doing it, all talks about one or two weeks being non profitable are moot. They didn't do a thing yet to justify me paying them for the 20/21 pass, so I feel at a great loss already. How did you get your hands on a 20/21 pass? Quote
enjoralas Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 10 hours ago, momskeeztoo said: I’m sure Blue has lost money all week. On Wednesday I saw a few on rental skis, so they may have sold a few tickets. Thursday we literally had our own private mountain. Must be next to impossible to turn a profit at a ski area any more. Liability mostly, I would guess. I don't blame them one bit for closing yesterday. I take exception to them trying to claim it was to "save the snow for the pond skim." Quote
eaf Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, enjoralas said: How did you get your hands on a 20/21 pass? 19/20 of course. Thinking of 20/21 Ikon pass already. Edited March 30, 2019 by eaf Quote
momskeeztoo Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 11 hours ago, eaf said: What you're saying would be true and relevant if they also weren't selling season passes. Once they start doing it, all talks about one or two weeks being non profitable are moot. They didn't do a thing yet to justify me paying them for the 20/21 pass, so I feel at a great loss already. If you don’t want a pass, and feel it’s not worth it, than don’t buy one. I just made a statement that it’s probably really hard to make a profit on a ski area. They lost a lot of snow since Thursday, probably good they were closed yesterday. Quote
eaf Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, momskeeztoo said: If you don’t want a pass, and feel it’s not worth it, than don’t buy one. I just made a statement that it’s probably really hard to make a profit on a ski area. They lost a lot of snow since Thursday, probably good they were closed yesterday. I have a pass. I'm just saying, and not targeting your comment in particular because I saw people commenting similarly before, that whether the mountain loses money on a particular day or not is irrelevant and can't be an excuse for stopping the lifts. Because they do have obligations to season pass holders that gave them a lump sum of money up to a year before and expect to have service available, whether it's profitable on a given day or not. Freaking CB was open just fine on Friday and I had my share of talks today on the lifts from their season pass holders about how BM can't hold a candle to CB. Quote
Shadows Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 I had a window cleaning supply store call me the other day to see if I needed any equipment. I called him back and asked what kind of deal he can get me on a few things. He said they're regular price. Why did you call me then? To tell me your store is open??? Ok. 1 Quote
enjoralas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, eaf said: I have a pass. I'm just saying, and not targeting your comment in particular because I saw people commenting similarly before, that whether the mountain loses money on a particular day or not is irrelevant and can't be an excuse for stopping the lifts. Because they do have obligations to season pass holders that gave them a lump sum of money up to a year before and expect to have service available, whether it's profitable on a given day or not. You need a better understanding of what you're buying. Quote
Kyle Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 You’re literally skiing there for free after the 8th time or something like that, they don’t owe you shit after that day. Quote
toast21602 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 Glad they’re closed on this cloudy Sunday. 3 1 Quote
eaf Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Kyle said: You’re literally skiing there for free after the 8th time or something like that, they don’t owe you shit after that day. That's another misconception. Just look at $189 window prices and the $699 cost of Epic passes as Doug said in another thread. Someone coming to the window would think that wow, what a deal, the pass will pay itself off in just 4 visits and then I'll be skiing for free. What he misses in that comparison is why the price of the one day ticket is so freaking high in the first place. Skiing is not worth $189 a day at any resort. And nobody's skiing for free at Blue. I pay for the contract in advance, they agree to keep the lifts spinning. I'm at a loss on a President's day weekend when every family shows up paying them window prices. They're at a loss on a March weekday when season pass holders can finally ski the trails without feeling that they're sardines in a can. So it's fair. There was a mountain called Alpine that liked to randomly close on their season pass holders. They felt they could really abuse that, also probably thinking along the same lines that it's not profitable to spin the lifts when there are no people. Well, maybe for another reason, but they didn't even up well.pp Quote
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