Blue Mountain - COVID-19 Update

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 2:58 PM, RidgeRacer said:

Tp4...you know I'm a fan but come on dude. How do you explain the massive surge all over the world? Is the European surge because of the rioting too?

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We will have to agree to disagree. As long as I live I will never stop believing the rioting/protesting/looting/celebration is the main reason we have Covid so bad.  For months we’ve been told to social distance, but suddenly crowds of tens of thousands are ok?  How does that make sense? With all due respect, using your logic we can say lockdowns are completely useless, as Europe had socialist style complete lockdowns and are still getting ravaged by the virus.  Also, there have been riots in Europe.  I also posted an article showing a girl wearing a mask at a protest and still got Covid.  It’s very stressful that my ski season could be affected due to selfish people.  I’ve been acting responsible during this yet my life is at risk cause people wanted free Nike’s smh.  Also, I find the attack on families offensive.  Seeing family for thanksgiving bad...running around the streets yelling and spitting everywhere good.  The double standards are ridiculous  and reek of political motivation 

[RidgeRacer]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:07 PM, theprogram4 said:

We will have to agree to disagree. As long as I live I will never stop believing the rioting/protesting/looting/celebration is the main reason we have Covid so bad.  For months we’ve been told to social distance, but suddenly crowds of tens of thousands are ok?  How does that make sense? With all due respect, using your logic we can say lockdowns are completely useless, as Europe had socialist style complete lockdowns and are still getting ravaged by the virus.  Also, there have been riots in Europe.  I also posted an article showing a girl wearing a mask at a protest and still got Covid.  It’s very stressful that my ski season could be affected due to selfish people.  I’ve been acting responsible during this yet my life is at risk cause people wanted free Nike’s smh.  Also, I find the attack on families offensive.  Seeing family for thanksgiving bad...running around the streets yelling and spitting everywhere good.  The double standards are ridiculous  and reek of political motivation 

Believe me I get that and I'm not at all saying the rioting and looting was immune to it. What I'm saying is there's no way that is the only reason its surging in the US. Its probably one of many many reasons why.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:06 PM, RidgeRacer said:

The positive....Pfizer upped their vaccine effectiveness to 95%. Let's be honest a vaccine is the only thing that may end this at this point.

https://apnews.com/article/pfizer-covid-19-shot-95-percent-9d71455cfce0ff047dee4df873ec1023

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The question is what percentage of people will be willing to take the vaccine..

Edited November 18, 2020 by GrilledSteezeSandwich

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:10 PM, RidgeRacer said:

Believe me I get that and I'm not at all saying the rioting and looting was immune to it. What I'm saying is there's no way that is the only reason its surging in the US. Its probably one of many many reasons why.

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I can agree with this 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:07 PM, theprogram4 said:

We will have to agree to disagree. As long as I live I will never stop believing the rioting/protesting/looting/celebration is the main reason we have Covid so bad.  For months we’ve been told to social distance, but suddenly crowds of tens of thousands are ok?  How does that make sense? With all due respect, using your logic we can say lockdowns are completely useless, as Europe had socialist style complete lockdowns and are still getting ravaged by the virus.  Also, there have been riots in Europe.  I also posted an article showing a girl wearing a mask at a protest and still got Covid.  It’s very stressful that my ski season could be affected due to selfish people.  I’ve been acting responsible during this yet my life is at risk cause people wanted free Nike’s smh.  Also, I find the attack on families offensive.  Seeing family for thanksgiving bad...running around the streets yelling and spitting everywhere good.  The double standards are ridiculous  and reek of political motivation 

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Anecdotal evidence doesn’t fly with this crowd...it will work with the some of the ex cons you work with at the car lot. 

[Kyle]

I bet if they made you use your voter registration for testing, both sides would follow the stay at home orders more seriously. 

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:12 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Anecdotal evidence doesn’t fly with this crowd...it will work with the some of the ex cons you work with at the car lot. 

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You really think nobody got the virus in crowds of tens of thousands?  Even I will admit there are other factors, especially bars, which you went to a lot during this 

[RidgeRacer]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:11 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

The question is what percentage of people will be willing to take the vaccine..

I think I would.

[Schif]

I hate to the the nihilist in the room, but come on. None of this matters. We can slow it with restrictions but we can't stop it. We can lock down, drop the numbers, feel good about it and then they will spike again. We are talking about something that went from one small area in China to the entire world in the span of a few months. If this virus had a motto it would be "Can't stop won't stop". A vaccine will take years to get this under control and there is nothing we can do. 

We are just animals stuck to a big spinning ball we can't really get off of and sometimes things kill off a bunch of us for no real good reason. Once you kick back and realize we are all just along for the ride it starts to feel less bumpy. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:14 PM, theprogram4 said:

You really think nobody got the virus in crowds of tens of thousands?  Even I will admit there are other factors, especially bars, which you went to a lot during this 

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Some do but it’s tiny compared to bars at at home gatherings.  Most wear masks at BLM protests 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:15 PM, RidgeRacer said:

I think I would.

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Well eventually it might be required for things like air travel and even drivers license registration. We won’t be in the first or likely even second round of vaccines so we can see how the early folks respond to it. 

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:16 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Some do but it’s tiny compared to bars at at home gatherings.  Most wear masks at BLM protests 

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Serious question...it’s more dangerous to have thanksgiving dinner with 5 family members than be in a crowd of 10,000?

[NMSKI]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:20 PM, theprogram4 said:

Serious question...it’s more dangerous to have thanksgiving dinner with 5 family members than be in a crowd of 10,000?

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It could depend.  If you are at a BLM protest or a Trump rally and its outside with the wind blowing and the sun's UV rays shining, I feel okay about that compared to being across the dinner table from a spit talker in an unventilated room.  

Edit: of course wearing a mask in the protest/rally scenario.

Edited November 18, 2020 by NMSKI

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:30 PM, NMSKI said:

It could depend.  If you are at a BLM protest or a Trump rally and its outside with the wind blowing and the sun's UV rays shining, I feel okay about that compared to being across the dinner table from a spit talker in an unventilated room.  

Edit: of course wearing a mask in the protest/rally scenario.

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We will have to agree to disagree. 10,000 is way more than 5, especially when those 10,000 are screaming and spitting. 

[Schif]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:36 PM, theprogram4 said:

We will have to agree to disagree. 10,000 is way more than 5, especially when those 10,000 are screaming and spitting. 

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the majority of those 100,00 are not near you though.....

[saltyant]

While it can be discouraged, you're never going to stop people from protesting or meeting with family members in this country, absent authoritarian measures.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 3:20 PM, theprogram4 said:

Serious question...it’s more dangerous to have thanksgiving dinner with 5 family members than be in a crowd of 10,000?

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Nope more dangerous for 10 million thanksgivings with various family nemebers than lots of protests. TP4 please behave or Root is gonna put you in timeout. 

[Schif]

  On 11/18/2020 at 4:21 PM, saltyant said:

While it can be discouraged, you're never going to stop people from protesting or meeting with family members in this country, absent authoritarian measures.

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Even with authoritarian measures they can't really stop anything. If the looting and stuff has shown us anything lately its that the grasp that the police have on the populace is tenuous at best. 

[Barb]

The state updated their website and gyms will have to go to 10% capacity. I just called my gym and said they are most likely closing, but they will send out an email. There is nothing specific to ski resorts.  I think Polis knows that is a pretty hot topic and is proceeding with caution. If you don’t use IKON pass and resorts close they will roll over 100% to next year. If you use one day you are screwed. Think I am going to wait snd see how this plays out. No sense in getting a day or two in on a WROD then losing towards next season. 

[toast21602]

6,339 new cases for PA.

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 4:23 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

TP4 please behave or Root is gonna put you in timeout. 

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The problem I am having is there is nothing cool or exciting left to see on the internet, I have literally seen it all.  There are literally not a single road rage video or ski fight video left to see

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

6339 new cases oh sorry Toast beat me. 

Edited November 18, 2020 by GrilledSteezeSandwich

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 5:15 PM, theprogram4 said:

The problem I am having is there is nothing cool or exciting left to see on the internet, I have literally seen it all.  There are literally not a single road rage video or ski fight video left to see

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Expand your horizons 

[theprogram4]

  On 11/18/2020 at 5:20 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Expand your horizons 

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I already have.  As I said, there is nothing left cool to see, I have seen all the internet has to offer 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

  On 11/18/2020 at 5:21 PM, theprogram4 said:

I already have.  As I said, there is nothing left cool to see, I have seen all the internet has to offer 

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Cool new content being uploaded to YouTube daily or go visit the dark web.  Maybe get Netflix. I’ve never tried it but people love it. 

Edited November 18, 2020 by GrilledSteezeSandwich