12/12 JF

[saltyant]

Jack Frost was pretty rad. 4 blue trails open and mostly in grate shape, except for DeMattes Demise or whatever which had some cookies of death.  Still way way better than that atrocious crapola Midway I've become accustomed to during early season. Plus I slept until 7:50 and still made it on time. Skied 1.5 hours, now drinking blistering hot coffee and consuming french Toast at the White Haven diner. #JADIP #WTGAI #DayOfKindness

Edited December 12, 2021 by saltyant

[antman12]

I was there from 9-11. Yea Demise was pretty rough. 

[saltyant]

I've been really happy with my Epic Pass so far. They've opened an impressive amount of trails for the weather we've had, especially compared to other places like Camelback and Montage. There was even a dude scanning passes who said it was for metric data to determine which lifts and trails are being used the most. I'm just hoping for some steeper terrain soon since everything open is pretty flat except for one section of Jane's Addiction.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

57 minutes ago, saltyant said:

I've been really happy with my Epic Pass so far. They've opened an impressive amount of trails for the weather we've had, especially compared to other places like Camelback and Montage. There was even a dude scanning passes who said it was for metric data to determine which lifts and trails are being used the most. I'm just hoping for some steeper terrain soon since everything open is pretty flat except for one section of Jane's Addiction.

That is fantastic...have you been in the lodge yet to hangout with the cougars?

[C1erArt]

That is fantastic...have you been in the lodge yet to hangout with the cougars?

There is a sign saying no personal items to be left in lodge. Don’t know if they are going to enforce it.

[toast21602]

10 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

That is fantastic...have you been in the lodge yet to hangout with the cougars?

I don’t think they let antivaxx people in 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

7 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

I don’t think they let antivaxx people in 

You completed the alley oop..I gave the alley and you gave the oop....like

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

12 minutes ago, C1erArt said:

There is a sign saying no personal items to be left in lodge. Don’t know if they are going to enforce it.

Do they have lockers for personal items?  

[toast21602]

2 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

You completed the alley oop..I gave the alley and you gave the oop....like

Wow thanks for that. Didn’t know it was part of your glorious plan. Always happy to dunk on salty. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

23 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

Wow thanks for that. Didn’t know it was part of your glorious plan. Always happy to dunk on salty. 

I’ll blast jock jams while you dunk on salty. 

[saltyant]

1 hour ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

That is fantastic...have you been in the lodge yet to hangout with the cougars?

No, they can shove their $10 hot dogs. I'll eat at the local diner instead.

Edited December 12, 2021 by saltyant

[saltyant]

57 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

I don’t think they let antivaxx people in 

I'm not "antivaxx". take all the vaxx you want. 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

41 minutes ago, saltyant said:

I'm not "antivaxx". take all the vaxx you want. 

Unbelievable next he’s gonna say that PARidgeRacer thinks Whiteface is the best in the east.  

Edited December 12, 2021 by GrilledSteezeSandwich

[saltyant]

1 minute ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Unbelievable next he’s gonna say that PARidgeRacer thinks Whiteface is the best in the east.  

Take it to the Whiteface thread.

[toast21602]

24 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Unbelievable next he’s gonna say that PARidgeRacer thinks Whiteface is the best in the east.  

I've never been there. Just seems like a long drive when the same amount of time I can get out west. 

[saltyant]

1 hour ago, toast21602 said:

I've never been there. Just seems like a long drive when the same amount of time I can get out west. 

Starting from Allentown, it takes 5 hours and 42 minutes to drive to Whiteface. To be realistic, though, let's add 30 minutes for gasoline, coffee, Roy Rogers spicy chicken sandwich, and to make toilet. That means you can get to Whiteface in 6 hours and 12 minutes. If you begin your journey at 6:00 am, you can be on the snow in the Dacks by 12:30 pm.

Now let's compare this to flying out west. Starting from Allentown, it takes 1 hour and 11 minutes to drive to Philadelphia Int'l Airport (the closest airport to get a direct flight). Then add 5 minutes driving around the economy parking lot looking for the perfect spot. Now add 15 minutes of riding the shuttle. Then let's assume 45 minutes to check in to the flight, check a ski bag, and to get probed up the anoos by security. Now figure 15 minutes walking through the airport to find your gate (add an extra 15 minutes for SLC). Then a 1 hour wait for your delayed flight. Now 30 minutes waiting for the flight to board. Once everyone's on board the plane has to sit there for at least 20 minutes. Now add 20 more minutes taxiing around Philadelphia. Oops, 5 planes ahead for take off so add 20 more minutes. Figure 4 hours and 4 minutes for en route (slowed due to prevailing westerlies). Now 15 minutes taxiing around Denver Airport, and whadyaknow a plane's at our gate so add 10 minutes. Now add 20 minutes waiting to get off the plane. Next a 15 minute trek through the airport, and 15 minute wait for ski bag (add 30 minutes for SLC). Now you have to go pick up your rental car, so that's a 10 minute walk to the Alamo shuttle, 5 minute wait for said shuttle, and then a 20 minute wait to pick up your car. Now you have to inspect the car and sign paperwork, and I'm pretty meticulous so that takes 15 minutes. Finally time to go and drive to play ski so that's around 2 hours minimum to any resort.

Finally we arrive and can play ski, and it took 12 hours and 50 minutes, (4:50 pm MST) or 6 hours and 38 minutes longer than driving to Whiteface. During that time I could have made 14 runs at Whiteface (48,020 feet of vertical) and still have 3 hours and 8 minutes left over for hotelhouse SUJOPO.

Edited December 12, 2021 by saltyant

[toast21602]

4 minutes ago, saltyant said:

Starting from Allentown, it takes 5 hours and 42 minutes to drive to Whiteface. To be realistic, though, let's add 30 minutes for gasoline, coffee, Roy Rogers spicy chicken sandwich, and to make toilet. That means you can get to Whiteface in 6 hours and 12 minutes. If you begin your journey at 6:00 am, you can be on the snow in the Dacks by 12:30 pm.

Now let's compare this to flying out west. Starting from Allentown, it takes 1 hour and 11 minutes to drive to Philadelphia Int'l Airport (the closest airport to get a direct flight). Then add 5 minutes driving around the economy parking lot looking for the perfect spot. Now add 15 minutes of riding the shuttle. Then let's assume 45 minutes to check in to the flight, check a ski bag, and to get probed up the anoos by security. Now figure 15 minutes walking through the airport to find your gate (add an extra 15 minutes for SLC). Then a 1 hour wait for your delayed flight. Now 30 minutes waiting for the flight to board. Once everyone's on board the plane has to sit there for at least 20 minutes. Now add 20 more minutes taxiing around Philadelphia. Oops, 5 planes ahead for take off so add 20 more minutes. Figure 4 hours and 4 minutes for en route (slowed due to prevailing westerlies). Now 15 minutes taxiing around Denver Airport, and whadyaknow a plane's at our gate so add 10 minutes. Now add 20 minutes waiting to get off the plane. Next a 15 minute trek through the airport, and 30 minute wait for ski bag (add 30 minutes for SLC). Now you have to go pick up your rental car, so that's a 10 minute walk to the Alamo shuttle, 5 minute wait for said shuttle, and then a 20 minute wait to pick up your car. Now you have to inspect the car and sign paperwork, and I'm pretty meticulous so that takes 15 minutes. Finally time to go and drive to play ski so that's around 2 hours minimum to any resort.

Finally we arrive and can play ski, and it took 12 hours and 50 minutes, or 6 hours and 38 minutes longer than driving to Whiteface. During that time I could have made 14 runs at Whiteface (48,020 feet of vertical) and still have 3 hours and 8 minutes left over for hotelhouse SUJOPO.

I'm talking about the flight, but thanks for wasting your time when you could have just SUJOPO

[toast21602]

oh, and take it to the Whiteface and/or Skison 221/22 thread. You're cluttering this one up.

[saltyant]

2 minutes ago, toast21602 said:

I'm talking about the flight, but thanks for wasting your time when you could have just SUJOPO

You're welcome and any time. That being said I've booked my trip to Breckenridge and am very excite.

[RidgeRacer]

3 hours ago, saltyant said:

Take it to the Whiteface thread.

I wish I was there rn

[RidgeRacer]

2 hours ago, toast21602 said:

I've never been there. Just seems like a long drive when the same amount of time I can get out west. 

I have much to say here but will comment when I get home. The lift doesn't allow enough time.

[saltyant]

9 minutes ago, RidgeRacer said:

I have much to say here but will comment when I get home. The lift doesn't allow enough time.

Toast is such a troll. Whiteface is radical. Hopefully they get on the Epic pass soon.

[RidgeRacer]

Ok salty said most of it. And despite his stupid sujopo crap he's spot on. Travel time is travel time. That's how I look at it at least. I've left the white face lot wearing ski pants and been home in time for dinner... Iate dinner but I was there for dinner nonetheless. I've done this math numerous times at least as it pertains to me and where I live. But the only comparable flight out west would be a direct to salt lake from philadelphia. For me however I'm still doing the hour and 45 minutes to the airport then an hour and a half to two hours at the airport killing time then 5 hours in the air then the 45 minute ride to the resort. Other than that to get anywhere out west I'm looking at 13 hours minimum. And honestly that shit gets exhausting sometimes I'd rather do the five and a half drive. You're missing out if you don't try white face. 5 and a 1/2 hours to 3200 vertical feet is tough to beat

[toast21602]

1 minute ago, RidgeRacer said:

Ok salty said most of it. And despite his stupid sujopo crap he's spot on. Travel time is travel time. That's how I look at it at least. I've left the white face lot wearing ski pants and been home in time for dinner... Iate dinner but I was there for dinner nonetheless. I've done this math numerous times at least as it pertains to me and where I live. But the only comparable flight out west would be a direct to salt lake from philadelphia. For me however I'm still doing the hour and 45 minutes to the airport then an hour and a half to two hours at the airport killing time then 5 hours in the air then the 45 minute ride to the resort. Other than that to get anywhere out west I'm looking at 13 hours minimum. And honestly that shit gets exhausting sometimes I'd rather do the five and a half drive. You're missing out if you don't try white face. 5 and a 1/2 hours to 3200 vertical feet is tough to beat

lololol don't fall for my Salty troll. You're better than that.

[RidgeRacer]

10 minutes ago, saltyant said:

Toast is such a troll. Whiteface is radical. Hopefully they get on the Epic pass soon.

Incorrect. Toast is my buddy and I want him to ski with me there. I know for a fact he'll love it.