Stevenson Lift Broken AGAIN

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Think of the reverse, imagine if we showed up at Blue and there was a sign sayin,”Sorry we are closed but you can come to camelback instead” 

[trackbiker]

27 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

i never really thought about that.  High speeds are susceptible to winds for sure, but that bubble just might as well be a sail.  Silliest thing on a lift that goes like 2000 feet ever.  There is actually a fixed grip right next to it, but i would assume based on the recent happenings at that place, its basically a monument.  

Jeff and I saw some chairs swaying like crazy on Christmas day, and i dont remember it being windy.  That place is such a mess this year.  Like, embarrassingly fucked up.  

Bubble lifts are actually less susceptible to wind. They're heavier and the bubble actually helps with aerodynamics.

[JFskiDan]

12 minutes ago, trackbiker said:

Bubble lifts are actually less susceptible to wind. They're heavier and the bubble actually helps with aerodynamics.

im no engineer, but im not going to buy into that at all.  I might buy into it some, if the bubble automatically closes for both the up and down.  i think, if im not mistaken, killingtons does.  Bubble down, i could see your point.  bubble up, big fucking sail.  

[JFskiDan]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Law said:

It's the same root cause as everything else.  In their eternal quest to suck every last penny possible out of the place they found the limit where people stop coming because the experience is shit.

The real question is how much do they even care ? Skiing is a shitty business and I have to believe all the other shit they have going on makes way more money so from a business perspective replacing lifts or doing maintenance doesn't make alot of sense if you believe you don't need the skiing to bring them in the door.

Blue for all it's many faults only really has skiing to make money from so the skiing at least in theory can never be that bad. 

i will say this, that new lift is way over the top for a PA resort with 800 vert.  That thing is way fancier than the MSE.  Big building to put all the chairs in when they dont feel like running it.  its like they bought the Caddy when a nicely optioned Chevy would do.  

[trackbiker]

24 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

im no engineer, but im not going to buy into that at all.  I might buy into it some, if the bubble automatically closes for both the up and down.  i think, if im not mistaken, killingtons does.  Bubble down, i could see your point.  bubble up, big fucking sail.  

[mbike-ski]

"can" being the operative word, my guess in real world applications the difference apples to apples is negligible

source AI ?!

[Johnny Law]

24 minutes ago, trackbiker said:

I don't think that says what you think it says,  anyways none of it matters as the primary factors are so dominant the number of times the bubble non bubble matters is minimal.  Placement would be far far far more important, same thing with fences or similar.  

Think quincy at dv and why all the lifts at flagstaff are positioned the way they are.  

[Johnny Law]

1 minute ago, mbike-ski said:

"can" being the operative word, my guess in real world applications the difference apples to apples is negligible

source AI ?!

Read the words it's not talking about wind loading values but protecting riders...... unless they put all the chairs in a wind tunnel it's all guessing and even then the direction and placement is way way way way more important. 

[JFskiDan]

17 minutes ago, trackbiker said:

You can keep this going as long as you like with this, but if you really think this,

is going to be more stable in the wind than this, 

You wont be able to change my mind.    

 

 

[JFskiDan]

i will say this though, its windy AF in Tannersville today.  

[Johnny Law]

11 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

You can keep this going as long as you like with this, but if you really think this,

is going to be more stable in the wind than this, 

You wont be able to change my mind.    

 

 

Just do the math on the surface area alone and the real discussion is single vs dual rope. No single rope can hold a candle to dual rope.

[saltyant]

2 hours ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:

Think of the reverse, imagine if we showed up at Blue and there was a sign sayin,”Sorry we are closed but you can come to camelback instead” 

That would be a treat! We could all tailgate in the paved lots of Camelback and not get mud all over our ski boots while consuming copious amounts of Yoo-Hoos.

[EdBacon]

Hey wow would be a good time to use one of those fixed grip lifts they're letting rot. 

You know some people collect those things and some old mountains still keep them running and would love to have them. 

Or not. Whatever. 

[saltyant]

1 hour ago, EdBacon said:

Hey wow would be a good time to use one of those fixed grip lifts they're letting rot. 

You know some people collect those things and some old mountains still keep them running and would love to have them. 

Or not. Whatever. 

I loved riding Old Bailey on busy days instead of sitting butt to nut on Sullivan Lift. Usually no one was on it unless it was really really busy. I've rarely seen many of the other fixed grips run in my time other than the Glenn Chair and I think Pocono Raceway once 

[theprogram4]

I loved the rare occasions I got to ride cleopatra triple in my younger days.  That was open even less than the double next to it, I think mark anthony 

[JFskiDan]

Place your bets.  Camelback closes tomorrow?  

[Benm]

43 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

Place your bets.  Camelback closes tomorrow?  

why's that? wind?

oops nvm

Edited Wednesday at 09:33 PM by Benm

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I’m just hoping one of these days I arrive at Blue and there’s a rope across the entrance with a sign saying..sorry folks we are closed but feel free to ski at camelback.