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[C1erArt]

Guns are on at JF/BB

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

Open tomorrow - first in PA

[DiMe]

[EdBacon]

So... wait is JF opening first between the Pocono area mountains?

[Benm]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:45 PM, EdBacon said:

So... wait is JF opening first between the Pocono area mountains?

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apparently and by a mile (when everyone's fighting for the same day and they're two days ahead, that's a mile to me). im surprised.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Benm

[DiMe]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:45 PM, EdBacon said:

So... wait is JF opening first between the Pocono area mountains?

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Yes Vail choose NEPA of all regions to be the first in 🤣. I’ll be there tomorrow for a few laps.

Edited December 3, 2024 by DiMe

[theprogram4]

I miss when you could show up with some canned green beans and get a ticket

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I can’t wait to ask everybody how Floyd’s is @enjoralas calls it Lloyd’s lol

[C1erArt]

First day. Cameras when the slope opened. One park and a couple of greens on the west side open. Maybe 50 people there in the morning. A couple of rails at the top of one park, otherwise the slope was open. Pretty wide without features on it. 

Good conditions, nice and firm, didn’t deteriorate at all as the morning went on. A couple people skiing the trees and the edge of Exhibition. DJ tent near the lodge, new music speakers in the lodge. Mellow vibe. 
 

New CARV sensors worked well. Top Ski IQ today was 130, top speed 36. 
 

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[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

  On 12/4/2024 at 6:02 PM, C1erArt said:

First day. Cameras when the slope opened. One park and a couple of greens on the west side open. Maybe 50 people there in the morning. A couple of rails at the top of one park, otherwise the slope was open. Pretty wide without features on it. 

Good conditions, nice and firm, didn’t deteriorate at all as the morning went on. A couple people skiing the trees and the edge of Exhibition. DJ tent near the lodge, new music speakers in the lodge. Mellow vibe. 
 

New CARV sensors worked well. Top Ski IQ today was 130, top speed 36. 
 

 

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Nice! It’s PA and it’s skiing!

What other trails are showing significant snowmaking process and look like they could get open for Sat or Sun? May well head there one of those days.

Edited December 4, 2024 by Ski2Live Live2Ski

[C1erArt]

  On 12/4/2024 at 6:10 PM, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

Nice! It’s PA and it’s skiing!

What other trails are showing significant snowmaking process and look like they could get open for Sat or Sun? May well head there one of those days.

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On the down side, there wasn’t any snow blowing east of One Park. 😒

Edited December 4, 2024 by C1erArt

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

  On 12/4/2024 at 6:14 PM, C1erArt said:

On the down side, there wasn’t any snow blowing east of One Park. 😒

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oh well  - seems like their pattern to do it west to east - hope they at least get Lehigh or Janes open to spread weekend folks out. 
 

looks like they have snow making temps through Sunday morning

[EdBacon]

They'll start with Tbolt to get A lift running.

[C1erArt]

  On 12/4/2024 at 7:54 PM, EdBacon said:

They'll start with Tbolt to get A lift running.

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It was quite a while last year before they got Exhibition done. 

[momskeeztoo]

  On 12/4/2024 at 10:32 PM, C1erArt said:

It was quite a while last year before they got Exhibition done. 

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I’m hoping with this cold weather, everyone is stepping their game up and making a lot of snow. Last year seemed like such a battle with the weather. 

[JFskiDan]

  On 12/5/2024 at 12:42 PM, momskeeztoo said:

I’m hoping with this cold weather, everyone is stepping their game up and making a lot of snow. Last year seemed like such a battle with the weather. 

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i feel like Vails MO at JFBB has been to open with a few trails, then blow some snow here and there, but not go balls to the walls to get 100% open asap.  i feel like Peak did.  i can be wrong on this, but i feel like Blue and Frost get 100% around the same time.  It fits Vails business model to kind of pace themselves with snowmaking, the passes they are concerned about selling have already been purchased.  

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

  On 12/5/2024 at 1:19 PM, JFskiDan said:

i feel like Vails MO at JFBB has been to open with a few trails, then blow some snow here and there, but not go balls to the walls to get 100% open asap.  i feel like Peak did.  i can be wrong on this, but i feel like Blue and Frost get 100% around the same time.  It fits Vails business model to kind of pace themselves with snowmaking, the passes they are concerned about selling have already been purchased.  

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I think they view their resorts systemically rather than individually. Get JF open a bit to calm the gripes of the Roundtoppers who can roadtrip up there. Those closer to Poconos that might gripe about nothing with a headway being open at JF can go to Hunter for Hellgate. Those wanting more terrain than Hunter has open can head to VT.

And honestly that approach makes sense for a multi mountain system. Would not be shocked to see Alterra focus on opening one or other of their PA places first and direct those wanting more challenge up to Windham or VT - as suggested by planned Paradise/Burma opening at Blue

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by Ski2Live Live2Ski

[C1erArt]

  On 12/5/2024 at 1:19 PM, JFskiDan said:

feel like Vails MO at JFBB has been to open with a few trails, then blow some snow here and there, but not go balls to the walls to get 100% open asap.

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They are in no hurry right now. Only one fan going from what I saw today. 

[EdBacon]

  On 12/5/2024 at 7:43 PM, C1erArt said:

They are in no hurry right now. Only one fan going from what I saw today. 

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It's not as cold today with the front still coming through. I see a temp of 27F with 75% humidity which isn't a great wet bulb temp. 

 

Vail absolutely does NOT run mountains as local mountains. They run the whole thing as a system to certain mountains' detriment, JF included. Maybe that will slowly change as the JF managers get more familiar with the mountain and the locals, but I am not holding my breath. Although I will admit they have done slightly better year by year since 2020/2021. 

Edited December 5, 2024 by EdBacon

[EdBacon]

And the guns are back on. Looks like they just waited until after closing. 

[Ski2Live Live2Ski]

Skied 13 runs from 1-4 with nice conditions and zero lines. They now have Jane’s Lane and Easy Rider open along with One Park and snow blown into the trees alongside the latter two. 

[toast21602]

  On 12/9/2024 at 12:56 AM, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

Skied 13 runs from 1-4 with nice conditions and zero lines. They now have Jane’s Lane and Easy Rider open along with One Park and snow blown into the trees alongside the latter two. 

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Love the pics! Looks like a whiteout. 

[JFskiDan]

I hope there weren't any lines.  The trail count and lift count are almost the same.  

[EdBacon]

Was there on Saturday and no crowds. Snow quality was pretty good. 

Too bad they'll have to reset again with the rain. 

[C1erArt]

Sunday, Dec. 15

Out for a couple of hours, started about 10:30. Lot across from the lodge was 3/4 full. Lodge itself was pretty quiet. Lapped One Park and Demattes. Blowing snow on the crossover from e mtn to top of Challenge. Snow conditions were pretty pristine, firm with a nice carvable cover. Still only 2 rails on One Park.