POLL: World Class "Summer" Terrain Park

[skier150]

We are working on opening a "summer" or year round terrain park in the Pocono area. The park will be open year round, seven days a week, day and night. We will be using a type of snow carpet that will be wet during the summer and snow covered during the winter. There will be a halp-pipe, quarter-pipe, rails, boxes, jumps, bumps and tons of other things to have fun on. Competitions, concerts, movie premeiers, and jams will be a regular occurance.

 

Right now we are trying collect data regarding interest and profitablility, please take the poll or if you have any comments or questions just let me know.

 

Thanks!

[Timeless]

I'm not interested if it's not snow...

 

Why not, it would be agreat way to keep your ski-legs in shape and work on that steeze.

[snorovr]

Doug its a real good time man. I spent alot of time on carpet this summer and my comfort level on my skis went way up. Keep in mind I've been skiing since I was 3 so I didn't think I could get more comfortable. I'd love hanging out with skiers year round.

[librider]

Wow that would be orgsmic.. ive wanted one around here fo so long. Where would it be?

[nick malozzi]

rails+hits+spring/summer conditions... I'm there.

[pdog43]

For those that have tried it before, what is it like in comparison as far as speed and control. I realize it hard to compare to actual snow but just a general idea.

[Papasteeze]

You talking about snowflex? I want in on the grading contract. Keep me in mind.

 

 

 

BTW - estimates for local mountain were well over 1.5m to start.

Edited January 20, 2006 by Papasteeze

[LineSki]

that would probably be the coolest thing to do in the summer. I would support it.

[Shadows]

are you guys gonna try and use space at a mountain that already exists, or are you gonna make it to where theres no relation to any mountain? or, has any mountain in the area shown interest? where would it go?

[VTmark]

do it! i would probly pay close to a grand for a seson pass! i would be pissed that its that much but it would be worth it.

[Sno Mountain Skier]

I would definetaly go. A couple of times a summer.

[skier150]

I have not decided on the final material yet, I have a lot of samples here that I have to evaluate further. The cost is in the millions, so we will be using investors and sponsors to help fund the project. This has nothing to do with any mountain in the area at this time. We will start searching for locations this spring, and trying to keep in in the Poconos area.

 

The material I am using now in my backyard is a decent slide, not as fast as snow... but enough to get things done. The only drawback is that it is not really carvable, so that is why I am looking at other material as well.

[kragan]

I would have to go at least one time to check it out. If it wasn't super crowded I could see going once, maybe twice a month. Definitely once is started getting colder out, late October/early November, and I got antsy to get out there, I could see going more often, but I bet it would be super crowded that time of year.

[Shadows]

i think it would be a cool idea to get a mountain involved. that way they could sell year round passes. it would be more expensive, but you'd get to ski year round.

[pdog43]

It looks pretty sweet I would defintely hit that up. How much coverage can you get for the 1.5 mill?

[VTmark]

how much would it coust to become an "invesrtor"

[Papasteeze]

i think it would be a cool idea to get a mountain involved. that way they could sell year round passes. it would be more expensive, but you'd get to ski year round.

 

Staffing a resort is expensive... If BC still has thier old tow, it was available for 10k - you only need 10 acres for parking, the hill and some basic concessions. There is a reason why all of these carpet places are in the UK and there are none here... No one yet has proven a return on the dollar. However I feel strongly that parks will continue to become more popular so that makes an year around park more of an option.

 

Places that already operate year around stand the best chance of making something like this work, too bad CB is so "behind the times" they already have everything needed except a shaped park and the carpet itself.

 

Good Luck Skier150 - I mean that sincerely... I can give you some more info on a great location tomorrow and some contact info if you are interested.

Edited January 20, 2006 by Papasteeze

[pyro_boarder]

That's a great idea and it would be awesome for the poconos to be the firsts place to have it. The pocono regon seems to be growing very fast (why I'm getting out after college) so it would be a good location. When are you looking to have it done? This summer or further down the road?

[Schif]

That would be awesome. It would probobly suck if you wrecked though. I can see myself coming home w/ some patches of skin missing, but still a smile on my face.

[skifreak]

Good Luck, skier150. I hope everything works out for you. Even though I don't go in the park, I think it would be cool to have one in the Pocono's.

[skifreak]

I don't either, but you never know. I don't think there are any around here and you are close to NY and NJ so that may help bring more people.

[pyro_boarder]

There are so many tourists in the area and it is a novelty so I don't think they will have a problem making a profit, especially it they hold concerts and contests and stuff. The only pitfalls I can think of would be insurance, and the start up cost is huge. But it in a year round business and it will be the only place to ride in the summer. Good luck with this, I'm sure you could pull it off.

[Shadows]

i may be wrong but i think most of the carpet parks are around some other big attraction.

[skier150]

Good Luck, skier150. I hope everything works out for you. Even though I don't go in the park, I think it would be cool to have one in the Pocono's.

 

Thanks

 

 

There are so many tourists in the area and it is a novelty so I don't think they will have a problem making a profit, especially it they hold concerts and contests and stuff. The only pitfalls I can think of would be insurance, and the start up cost is huge. But it in a year round business and it will be the only place to ride in the summer. Good luck with this, I'm sure you could pull it off.

 

 

Thanks!

 

Yeah, insurance always sucks the money. We will also be running camps in the summer, and with the plentiful lodging and other attractions in the Poconos it will make a great destination.

[method9455]

Look at all the park rats out there, if the park was good enough it would draw people. u'll have competition from xanadu but apparently they think people will pay to ski in the summer. Although i think xanadu is going to be a bust, its a bunny hill in the summer - it will be terrible. A park in the summer will draw die hards though.