poconoceancity Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 What is USCSA and why the restrictions? United States Cock Sucker Association Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 A 183 at 24 meters is going to ski completely different than a 170/16m. Hang on! What's all this "race stock" talk. Are they hand picked skis for you? What is USCSA and why the restrictions? As if i don't know that already.. race stock? stiffer, and each pair of skis are flex tested and matched for consistency. USCSA = united states collegiate skiing association, and they follow USSA length/radius requriesments (>=180, >=21m) What is USCSA and why the restrictions? United States Cock Sucker Association You would know Quote
poconoceancity Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 As if i don't know that already.. race stock? stiffer, and each pair of skis are flex tested and matched for consistency. USCSA = united states collegiate skiing association, and they follow USSA length/radius requriesments (>=180, >=21m) You would know Are you on the ski team at Lehigh? Quote
First Grade Teacher Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) As if i don't know that already.. From your post about edge angle and it being easier I wasn't sure you did. QUOTE(AtomicSkier @ Sep 28 2006, 11:56 AM) "I just have to get better edge angle, which should be easier, since they're 183s, should be more confident laying them over harder, vs my short 170's." Shorter and more sidecut is easier than longer and less sidecut. Edited September 29, 2006 by First Grade Teacher Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 From your post about edge angle and it being easier I wasn't sure you did. QUOTE(AtomicSkier @ Sep 28 2006, 11:56 AM) I just have to get better edge angle, which should be easier, since they're 183s, should be more confident laying them over harder, vs my short 170's. Shorter and more sidecut is easier than longer and less sidecut. . If anything it's easier to get more angle (tip the ski more on edge) w/ a GS ski, you're going faster, and your holding on longer, lets you get lower into the turn, and the stabilty of the longer GS ski. look at WC slalom skiers, they're more upright then they are on GS. a ski on high edge bends effortlessly, no effort required Quote
Justo8484 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 jeff, all skis are flex tested for consistency. thats part of the reason why the serial numbers on skis match. Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 jeff, all skis are flex tested for consistency. thats part of the reason why the serial numbers on skis match. show me the flex #'s printed on the skis, then i'll believe that one you're telling me that line or salomon or whoever tests EVERY ski that leaves the factory, and makes sure BOTH skis have the exact same flex... Quote
Justo8484 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 show me the flex #'s printed on the skis, then i'll believe that one you're telling me that line or salomon or whoever tests EVERY ski that leaves the factory, and makes sure BOTH skis have the exact same flex... EXACT same, no. pretty darn close? yes. Quote
First Grade Teacher Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 . If anything it's easier to get more angle (tip the ski more on edge) w/ a GS ski, you're going faster, and your holding on longer, lets you get lower into the turn, and the stabilty of the longer GS ski. look at WC slalom skiers, they're more upright then they are on GS. a ski on high edge bends effortlessly, no effort required Wow. I don't know where to start, so I won't. Enjoy the new boards. Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 Wow. I don't know where to start, so I won't. Enjoy the new boards. Please share, I'd love to hear your experience on slalom and GS skis. Quote
Ski Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 Wow. I don't know where to start, so I won't. Enjoy the new boards. Stiffer flexing race stock skis are horrible for recreational skiing...like driving to the grocery store in a Formula 1 race car. But get them up to speed, use the proper angulation, get skeletally aligned, stay forward, and they are easier to ski---they won't vibrate, will be stable through cross-ruts, and will hold their line at speeds. You just have to be a good driver. Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 Stiffer flexing race stock skis are horrible for recreational skiing...like driving to the grocery store in a Formula 1 race car. But get them up to speed, use the proper angulation, get skeletally aligned, stay forward, and they are easier to ski---they won't vibrate, will be stable through cross-ruts, and will hold their line at speeds. You just have to be a good driver. My last mental image on 21m GS skis was on yours, at Blue Mtn. That didn't have good results, thank god my neck is still intact. Quote
Ski Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 My last mental image on 21m GS skis was on yours, at Blue Mtn. That didn't have good results, thank god my neck is still intact. It was really funny once we found out you weren't dead. Quote
First Grade Teacher Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 You just have to be a good driver. As Rain Man would say "I'm a good driver" It was really funny once we found out you weren't dead. How long were the skis? Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 How long were the skis? They were 171cm @ 21m GS:11s, we were skiing in semi soft snow (the same day that my avatar pic was taken), and I booted out his GS:11s and went flying pretty freakin high and far in the air after getting launched by them, i did a backflip in the air Quote
First Grade Teacher Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 They were 171cm @ 21m GS:11s, we were skiing in semi soft snow (the same day that my avatar pic was taken), and I booted out his GS:11s and went flying pretty freakin high and far in the air after getting launched by them, i did a backflip in the air Please check in with Mark Miller before you try your new boards. Have him follow you down. Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 Please check in with Mark Miller before you try your new boards. Have him follow you down. I'm going to ski until my hair catches on fire Quote
snorovr Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 I'm going to ski until my hair catches on fire It won't until you bring those training wheels in... (your arms) Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 It won't until you bring those training wheels in... (your arms) arms arent out the poles are. I'm in a pretty good position in my avatar Quote
Papasteeze Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 Wow. I don't know where to start, so I won't. Enjoy the new boards. hahahaa... Jeff, have you ever even demoed something similar to those skis before? Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 hahahaa... Jeff, have you ever even demoed something similar to those skis before? Demo'ed last years 183cm @ 24m at Okemo Quote
skidude Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 Oh boy... What size boot are you? Maybe its not too late for me to find you some respectable boards... Atomics do serve on use tho... Quote
AtomicSkier Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Posted September 29, 2006 Atomics do serve on use tho... At least Atomics don't snap in 1/2 How those Volkls doin? Quote
snorovr Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 At least Atomics don't snap in 1/2 How those Volkls doin? They might not snap but they sure do bend! Kinda reminds me of one of those rubber figures with the wire inside. I think that ski is gonna run away from you Jeff. Quote
jordan Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 At least Atomics don't snap in 1/2 How those Volkls doin? I had a rossi snap in half on me once, in wyoming, i made the mistake of skiing off of the groomers with just a few inches of new snow, i hit a mogul really hard, and the ski snapped in half. it was not fun trying to get down the rest of the mountain with my ski snapped in half Quote
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