Bode in the news again...

[Ski]

FRANCONIA, N.H. (AP) -- A cousin of skiing star Bode Miller fatally shot and ran over a police officer, then was killed by a passer-by who grabbed the officer's gun.

 

Liko Kenney shot Cpl. Bruce McKay four times and ran over him after a traffic stop Friday evening, state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte said. Gregory Floyd, who was driving by with his son, grabbed McKay's gun and shot Kenney when he refused to put his gun down, Ayotte said.

 

The 24-year-old Kenney was convicted of assaulting McKay and resisting arrest in 2003. Ayotte had no other details of that previous incident between the men, and rejected suggestions the officer should have let someone else handle the traffic stop given his history with the driver.

 

Officials said McKay pulled Kenney over for speeding on Route 116. Kenney took off, and McKay pursued him for about 1 1/2 miles before pulling in front of Kenney's car and pushing it off the road.

 

The officer used pepper spray on Kenney and his passenger and then turned around and was shot, Ayotte said Saturday at a news conference in Concord. Soon after, Floyd arrived and confronted Kenney while his son called for help using the officer's radio. Authorities said Floyd was justified in shooting Kenney.

 

The 48-year-old McKay was a 12-year veteran of the Franconia Police Department.

 

"It really tears at the fabric of the community and the fabric of the state," said Gov. John Lynch, who visited the town of about 900 residents Saturday as people paid their respects and brought flowers to a police station.

 

Bode Miller's father, Woody Miller, said there was a history of animosity between the officer and his nephew.

 

"They had a long relationship," said Miller, who operates an international tennis camp in nearby Easton. "There's been physical altercations between them before in the course of being arrested."

 

Miller said Kenney, who lived next door to him, didn't have a steady job, but often took work cutting firewood and picking fiddlehead ferns, a wild green that grows in the region and is considered a delicacy.

 

Bode Miller, who once bailed his cousin out of jail, was on his way home to Franconia, his father said. Miller was in Park City, Utah, this week, meeting with officials of the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association. At that meeting, the former Olympic medalist told officials he was cutting his ties with the U.S. team.

 

The shooting happened near this town in the White Mountain National Forest, popular with skiers and tourists who visited the Old Man of the Mountain, a rock formation and the state's symbol that crumbled into pieces four years ago.

[First Grade Teacher]

This is all Bodes fault! He took all that money from those little racer kids and left his cousin behind to deal with the cops! Scumbag!

 

[skidude]

I wonder if bode will go to the funeral, or just drink away the day.

 

Nahhh I don't need to wonder about that.

[Ski]

So Bode's doing a Koz? The story said that he was in PC to quit the team...just speculating, but he can't be quitting the WC...he must be hiring his own coaches and paying his own way. And now he'll get to sleep in his bus and party like it's 1999 (or, uh, the 2006 Olympics).

 

What's really interesting is that now we get to see Bode's results doing everything the Bode Way, and not with all those rules and expectations. Cool.

[Ski]

PARK CITY, Utah - Former Olympic medalist and World Cup champion Bode Miller is leaving the U.S. ski team, ending his contentious relationship with the federation that oversees the sport in this country.

 

The fiercely independent Miller has been at odds with the association for years, and there long had been rumblings that he would leave the team. U.S. officials have been unhappy with Miller

[Papasteeze]

At least he could have said he is quitting because there is no skier half pipe planned for 2010.. damnit!

[Ski]

Interesting how people call an out-of-control, cop murdering town an "old hippie town" because it's up north, while they'd call it entirely something different if this had happened in West Virginia. First off, backwater inbred lowlifes try to run over their family members after chainsawing trees onto their homes. And in another AP story, Bode bailed out the cop killer after an earlier run-in, as well as gloating over trying to antagonize the now dead officer by contesting a speeding ticket.

 

Calling these armed, road raging cop killers hippies is like calling all Muslims terrorists.

 

There's a reason people get the death penalty in many states for cop killing: if someone is capable of killing a cop, it's assumed they are capable of a higher degree of crime. Sort of like the difference between punching a fellow student and punching a teacher.

 

So, many townfolk rally around the cop killer and support the murderer by not sending representatives to the cops funeral.

 

Free-spirited hippie kid? Shit...thank god the ex-marine passerby was fortunate enough to put a few bullets in Bode's cousin. Maybe it will be some tiny degree of justice for a little girl who doesn't have a dad.

 

Maybe Bode, who was an enabler for the cop killer, will show some compassion and quietly pay for the girl's college.

 

 

FRANCONIA, New Hampshire (AP) -- Liko Kenney, described by friends as a free-spirited "Hippie kid," had a history of bad blood with police Cpl. Bruce McKay. So there was the potential for trouble when a traffic stop brought them together again.

 

US Ski Team superstar Bode Miller's troubled cousin shot McKay four times and drove over him.

 

Gregory Floyd, a passing motorist and ex-Marine who saw it all, grabbed McKay's gun and shot Kenney to death when he refused to put his gun down. Authorities quickly ruled the killing justified.

 

McKay, who had a 9-year-old daughter, was to have been married in July atop Cannon Mountain, where Bode Miller learned to ski. Instead his funeral will be held at the mountain.

 

As many as 6,000 officers from throughout the country are expected to attend Thursday's funeral, but in this close-knit mountain valley, where the Kenney family's roots run deep, at least one town may hold back.

 

Plans to send two fire department vehicles from neighboring Easton triggered a heated debate at the selectmen's meeting Monday night. Chairman Paul White, who is married to Kenney's cousin, moved to keep them away in protest.

 

Liko Kenney grew up on his grandparents' rustic tennis camp in Easton, where the extended family still lives. Liko's parents own a coffee plantation in Hawaii, and he followed their seasonal migrations: the islands in winter, the White Mountains in summer.

 

"He was kinda just a happy, hippie kid. He'd do anything to help anyone," said Holly Hayward, 48, who said she'd known Kenney his whole life.

 

Friends and family called Kenney a free-spirited outdoorsman who loved all-terrain vehicles and had issues with authority. Court records show he could be volatile even with his own family.

 

In January 2003, an aunt, Larisa Kenney, sought a restraining order against her nephew, then 19. In a handwritten letter, she told the court Liko had frightened her by chain-sawing trees near her cabin, sending one crashing onto her roof as she slept. When she confronted him, she said Liko exploded -- shouting, grabbing her and then following her on his ATV as she ran to safety at a relative's home.

 

Just weeks later, Liko Kenney had a violent run-in with McKay, who had followed tire tracks into an isolated parking area. Court documents say it took three officers to subdue Kenney, who tried to escape three times, once while cuffed and shackled.

 

One officer said Kenney grabbed McKay in the groin and that McKay reacted by punching Kenney in the face. Kenney's family and many in town say McKay broke Kenney's jaw that night, but Grafton County Attorney Rick St. Hilaire said Kenney's jaw was not broken.

 

Kenney could have gone to prison after pleading guilty to resisting arrest and assaulting McKay. But he got 15 days in jail, time served, when McKay asked for leniency, according to St. Hilaire.

 

Bode Miller also chafed against McKay, telling Sports Illustrated that he contested a 2005 speeding ticket in part to antagonize the officer.

 

Pastor Gary Hart of Franconia Community Church of Christ said McKay's image as a law-and-order man in an old hippie town may have distanced him from others.

 

"Most of the time people saw him he was in his patrol vehicle, he was in uniform, he was stopping people on the road for speeding. And once you get a reputation, it's almost impossible to change it," said Hart, who does some police chaplain work.

[First Grade Teacher]

Maybe you should pay for her college! Amazing how you make the jump from Bodes cousin killing a cop to it must somehow be Bodes fault. Bode didn't pull the trigger! You are totally ridiculous!

 

Is there anything else you would like to blame on Bode besides little kids with no race skis and a dead cop?

 

[Ski]

Hey, 1st Grade, can you read? Do you know what an enabler is? An enabler, for example, is someone that bails out and rallies behind a lowlife like the cop killer cousin, then goes on to BRAG in Sports Illustrated how he antagonized the cop. Bode himself was proud that he helped his cousin "put one over on the hardass" police officer.

 

Bode's own words, now they come back and bite him.

 

Did I say it was Bode's fault, or did I say Bode was an enabler? Oh, wait, here, I'll help you out: "Maybe Bode, who was an enabler for the cop killer, will show some compassion and quietly pay for the girl's college. "

 

Or don't you see any trend here with this tight knit clan? Bode mocked his teammates and his coaches for following FIS rules. Bode was going to quit the WC circuit until he realized the money would dry up from sponsors.

 

Maybe Bode should have left his cousin in jail for a while and learn a lesson. Admittedly, it's 20/20 hindsight, but the kid almost killed his aunt twice in one day, then assaulted a cop while resisting arrest...all before the latest incident.

 

1st Grade, are you really going to defend Bode on this one?

 

 

 

"Bode didn't pull the trigger! You are totally ridiculous!"

 

Yeah, 1st Grade, that's a brilliant statement. Only the people that pull the triggers are the one's to blame.

[First Grade Teacher]

Hey, 1st Grade, can you read? Do you know what an enabler is? An enabler, for example, is someone that bails out and rallies behind a lowlife like the cop killer cousin, then goes on to BRAG in Sports Illustrated how he antagonized the cop. Bode himself was proud that he helped his cousin "put one over on the hardass" police officer.

 

Bode's own words, now they come back and bite him.

 

Did I say it was Bode's fault, or did I say Bode was an enabler? Oh, wait, here, I'll help you out: "Maybe Bode, who was an enabler for the cop killer, will show some compassion and quietly pay for the girl's college. "

 

Or don't you see any trend here with this tight knit clan? Bode mocked his teammates and his coaches for following FIS rules. Bode was going to quit the WC circuit until he realized the money would dry up from sponsors.

 

Maybe Bode should have left his cousin in jail for a while and learn a lesson. Admittedly, it's 20/20 hindsight, but the kid almost killed his aunt twice in one day, then assaulted a cop while resisting arrest...all before the latest incident.

 

1st Grade, are you really going to defend Bode on this one?

"Bode didn't pull the trigger! You are totally ridiculous!"

 

Yeah, 1st Grade, that's a brilliant statement. Only the people that pull the triggers are the one's to blame.

 

I love that you always ask me questions and then proceed to answer them for me.

 

Bode doesn't need defense, he didn't kill anyone.

 

News Flash: Bode Miller is the cause of Global Warming! Yes it's true race fans. Bode keeps his RV idling all night at WC events. Organizers say the glaciers are melting because of Bode and that he will be the reason we never ski again.

 

Edited June 4, 2007 by AtomicSkier

[First Grade Teacher]

I love that you always ask me questions and then proceed to answer them for me.

 

Bode doesn't need defense, he didn't kill anyone.

 

News Flash: Bode Miller is the cause of Global Warming! Yes it's true race fans. Bode keeps his RV idling all night at WC events. Organizers say the glaciers are melting because of Bode and that he will be the reason we never ski again.

 

 

Thanks to Atomic for editing the above post. Weak...........very weak.

 

Edited June 4, 2007 by First Grade Teacher

[Ski]

Ugghh...1st Grade: I'm sorry it upsets you so much, but I have a lot of cop friends from when I was a newspaper photographer. Bode and his cousin, as well as the other "hippies" that that hated the cop because he wrote speeding tickets could have chosen another method of getting rid of the officer, instead of shooting him and running him over.

 

In a civilized society, townspeople---even "hippies" can request a vote be held at a town meeting, in which they can then vote to fire the officer. That way, the officer's little girl desn't have to attend her dad's funeral.

 

Read some of the news stories, 1st Grade: one shop owner's only comment about the murder was that the cop was a hardass that made a group of kids move their hackey sack game away from the front foor of her shop.

 

Another shop owner said something bad was bound to happen to the cop because he enforced the speed limit.

 

1st Grade: you can throw fits and scream like a baby that I'm wrong and I'm just being mean to Bode, but Bode doesn't earn a pass from me just because he has a gift. Bode and his cousin had a lot in common growing up, according to Bode. They were allowed to do pretty much anything they wanted, without fear of discipline.

[First Grade Teacher]

Ugghh...1st Grade: I'm sorry it upsets you so much, but I have a lot of cop friends from when I was a newspaper photographer.

 

I don't know what makes you think it upsets me. I could care less. It's your "high and mighty, blame everything on Bode" attitude that bugs me!

 

 

Bode and his cousin, as well as the other "hippies" that that hated the cop because he wrote speeding tickets could have chosen another method of getting rid of the officer, instead of shooting him and running him over.

 

See, now you are grouping Bode, his cousin and the hippies together like they all killed the cop. People like you make me sick. Get off your high horse.

 

And just to be clear, I'm not making any excuses for Bodes cousin. He should be punished to the full extent of the law if found guilty.

 

Edited June 4, 2007 by First Grade Teacher

[Ski]

1st Grade: Bode's cousin won't be prosecuted and won't be found guilty. HE'S DEAD. He was shot by an ex-marine who just happened upon the scene.

 

I can't believe you don't even bother to read the stories, yet come up with such hostile conclussions toward ME.

 

Secondly, I do NOT believe the townspeople of Franconia are hippies. Many that were interviewed are SELF-PROCLAIMED hippies.

 

Aside from the radical-hippie movement that included the Chicago Seven, I think it's an oxymoron to call someone a "gun carrying hippie".

 

I was being sarcastic by "agreeing" with them and using the term hippies. Hippies are more closely related to Buddhists, IMO...these people are more like Angry Rednecks.

[First Grade Teacher]

1st Grade: Bode's cousin won't be prosecuted and won't be found guilty. HE'S DEAD. He was shot by an ex-marine who just happened upon the scene.

 

I can't believe you don't even bother to read the stories, yet come up with such hostile conclussions toward ME.

 

Secondly, I do NOT believe the townspeople of Franconia are hippies. Many that were interviewed are SELF-PROCLAIMED hippies.

 

Aside from the radical-hippie movement that included the Chicago Seven, I think it's an oxymoron to call someone a "gun carrying hippie".

 

I was being sarcastic by "agreeing" with them and using the term hippies. Hippies are more closely related to Buddhists, IMO...these people are more like Angry Rednecks.

 

I knew he was killed. I just forgot. That should show you how much I care. You are correct, I didn't read anything about the subject other than what was on this site. It still doesn't make any of it Bodes fault.

 

You got me on him being killed. I can laugh at myself. I know I'm human.

 

[Ski]

I can laugh at myself.

 

It's cool..we all laugh at you. You're just one of us, now. But try not to express your hatred for me in such personal terms in the future, okay? I'm not some spoiled-brat millionaire in the public eye...and maybe I'm wrong, but I see ski related message forums as a place to express opinions and have discussions where people have differing ideas. We all know who each other is on this MB, which is pretty unique among most MB's...but it still feels like a threat when someone starts posting personal info when there is rancor in the discussion. But we're cool for now, right?

[Ski]

Ski won this won fair and square since FGT didn't even read the article..

 

Well I always lose arguments with you, Doug, 'cause you use that old standby: "You're too sensitive, Cole", and that's kind of embarassing. But, yeah, I'm 42-0 when it comes to 1st Grade...sort of Ali-like, eh?

[First Grade Teacher]

Well I always lose arguments with you, Doug, 'cause you use that old standby: "You're too sensitive, Cole", and that's kind of embarassing. But, yeah, I'm 42-0 when it comes to 1st Grade...sort of Ali-like, eh?

 

42-0 according to YOU. Even if you think you won that many, you are really only 41-1 because you still don't understand CAP time!

 

[Ski]

42-0 according to YOU. Even if you think you won that many, you are really only 41-1 because you still don't understand CAP time!

 

That's an attempt at humor, right? Because I clearly remember asking you to point out where I was wrong and you couldn't seem to come up with a post...

 

Here's something you might wanna take a look at, though...comes to us from our brothers at Epic:

 

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=37079

 

Enjoy this journey of enlightment and learning, 1st Grade...don't be hostile to it...accept it...be a sponge not a rock...

 

As Doug would say: "Don't be so sensitive."

[First Grade Teacher]

That's an attempt at humor, right? Because I clearly remember asking you to point out where I was wrong and you couldn't seem to come up with a post...

 

Here's something you might wanna take a look at, though...comes to us from our brothers at Epic:

 

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=37079

 

Enjoy this journey of enlightment and learning, 1st Grade...don't be hostile to it...accept it...be a sponge not a rock...

 

As Doug would say: "Don't be so sensitive."

 

Just admit your wrong and that will be a big step. CAP has nothing to do with too many turns or too much offset in a course. It only comes into play on straight courses. I told you that over and over.

 

As for Epic.............I don't care what they do. If you don't want results, stay off PASR and go watch the race. Then you will know who won when you log on. I still don't understand why the whole board needs to be quarantined until you watch the race. You claim to have worked in news and want people to wait for news until you have watched the race. Don't you think that's a little self centered?

 

Edited June 5, 2007 by First Grade Teacher

[AtomicSkier]

Ski, stop over reacting. FGT only says stuff like that to get you fired up, and it works, that's why he does it. Just laugh it off, and move on.

[Ski]

Ski, stop over reacting. FGT only says stuff like that to get you fired up, and it works, that's why he does it. Just laugh it off, and move on.

No anger...no problem...but I sometimes feel compelled to correct his miss-information...

 

Like with CAP times...it actually has EVERYTHING to do with how straight or turny a course is. NASTAR asks resorts to keep their courses standardized to within a certain percentage of the CAP time. The CAP time is the straight, tucked time it takes to go from top to bottom, without gates (we used to call it terminal velocity, as a joke---you sort of are trying to reach your TV).

 

NASTAR requests resorts use a certain amount of gates, offset a certain distance.

 

If the time it takes for racers to go through the course varies too much from the CAP time, then the course is deemed either too turny or too straight. I believe I've also stated that any decent race coach could look at a typical NASTAR course and judge how close the CAP time would be.

 

1st Grade: I'll bet you $5000 I'm right. And I'll bet you $5000 I was a journalist for the largest newspaper chain in America.

 

Put up.

 

or

 

Shut up.

 

Simple as that.

[First Grade Teacher]

No anger...no problem...but I sometimes feel compelled to correct his miss-information...

 

Like with CAP times...it actually has EVERYTHING to do with how straight or turny a course is. NASTAR asks resorts to keep their courses standardized to within a certain percentage of the CAP time. The CAP time is the straight, tucked time it takes to go from top to bottom, without gates (we used to call it terminal velocity, as a joke---you sort of are trying to reach your TV).

 

NASTAR requests resorts use a certain amount of gates, offset a certain distance.

 

If the time it takes for racers to go through the course varies too much from the CAP time, then the course is deemed either too turny or too straight. I believe I've also stated that any decent race coach could look at a typical NASTAR course and judge how close the CAP time would be.

 

1st Grade: I'll bet you $5000 I'm right. And I'll bet you $5000 I was a journalist for the largest newspaper chain in America.

 

Put up.

 

or

 

Shut up.

 

Simple as that.

 

That's $10,000 you could lose! Sure you wanna do that? (I won't answer for you, I'll let you decide)$10,000 you could put towards college for the cops daughter.

 

[Ski]

That's $10,000 you could lose! Sure you wanna do that? (I won't answer for you, I'll let you decide)$10,000 you could put towards college for the cops daughter.

 

 

That's 42-0.

[First Grade Teacher]

No anger...no problem...but I sometimes feel compelled to correct his miss-information...

 

Like with CAP times...it actually has EVERYTHING to do with how straight or turny a course is. NASTAR asks resorts to keep their courses standardized to within a certain percentage of the CAP time. The CAP time is the straight, tucked time it takes to go from top to bottom, without gates (we used to call it terminal velocity, as a joke---you sort of are trying to reach your TV).

 

NASTAR requests resorts use a certain amount of gates, offset a certain distance.

 

If the time it takes for racers to go through the course varies too much from the CAP time, then the course is deemed either too turny or too straight. I believe I've also stated that any decent race coach could look at a typical NASTAR course and judge how close the CAP time would be.

 

1st Grade: I'll bet you $5000 I'm right. And I'll bet you $5000 I was a journalist for the largest newspaper chain in America.

 

Put up.

 

or

 

Shut up.

 

Simple as that.

 

One more time...............below is what NASTAR publishes about CAP. I will explain it to you. The red part is the part I will discuss. Ski........You know what CAP is you are just confused on the turny part.

 

Each course is essentially a modified GS course with anywhere from 12 - 20 gates that racers must maneuver around. Gates are set with 18-20 meters of space between gates vertically and 4-8 meters of offset. NASTAR encourages resorts across the country to standardize their course(s) to have a par time of 23 seconds and set courses so that no course is within 5% of the cap time. The "cap time" is defined as the time it takes a pacesetter to tuck from the start to the finish of their course without going around gates and is the fastest possible time the venue will allow.

 

So lets just say a venue has a CAP of 20 seconds. 5% of 20 is 1. Add the 1 second to the 20 for a total of 21 seconds. The 5% rule means that the PAR can't be faster than 21 seconds. That would be an extremely straight course.

 

The rule says nothing about a PAR time that MUST be within a certain percentage above the CAP as long as your not inside that 5%. Hence why CAP has nothing to do with a turny course. The 5% rule is to discourage people from setting courses with no turns. (A 23 second PAR would be 15% above CAP.)

 

You can owe me the money until after the cops daughter gets out of college.

 

Edited June 5, 2007 by First Grade Teacher