Papasteeze Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Haven't really checked it yet, thought I would post that it was up. What do you guys think? http://www.bigboulderpark.com/ Edited November 22, 2007 by Papasteeze Quote
snorovr Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 I dig the section where they have what features are out. Better than the old one thats for sure. Quote
Papasteeze Posted November 22, 2007 Author Report Posted November 22, 2007 The site looks great. A little graphic heavy for an old guy like me. When you click on specific park and the features pop up. I would like to see the either photo or CAD or even better yet , a short video clip of someone hitting it in slow mo Quote
toast21602 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 that site is almost as good as Blue's.... Quote
librider Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 its nice.. just a little too much on the graphics. Quote
method9455 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 It's great. I don't think its too graphic heavy except for load time/scroll speed. But if the images can be optomized a little it might load faster, when I get back to school and have access to a web server I'll see if I can copy it and try to get it to load faster. Here is a great article (for web designers) on how to make an original website, and that website nailed pretty much every one of them, mad props. http://www.snap2objects.com/2007/11/20/how...he-web-20-look/ Quote
Barb Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 think I saw a few shots of pappasteeze's electric blue coc jacket in the nov 17th vid. Quote
Justo8484 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 wow. thats about 97 times better looking than their old site. design wise, its pretty nice. i would have spiced things up with a complimentary color thrown around in there somewhere to break up the monochromatic scheme, but it still looks pretty good. my only gripes are the load time, how heavy it is on your PC, and the scroll bar. even on my fast internet connection, it took over a minute to load, which is a stretch. also, it's pretty processor intensive to have the site open and navigate around the content. both of those issues could be fixed up with some better optimization techniques, or, depending on how the site's set up now, having more smaller files instead of one large one, that way you could be loading in key areas of the site while other content loads in the background as needed. also, by using flash to created the scrollbar, they took away its usefulness. they didn't put the functionality back in for PC users, and they're going to have a hell of a time getting it to work for a mac, god knows i've been trying to figure that one out for a month at work. sorry for the longwinded post, but i finally get a paycheck to do web development now. Quote
rgrwilco Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 i dig it. especially the timemarkers in the videos that are skulls. tone down the graphics though, some colors are too similar to others that are closeby Quote
Papasteeze Posted November 23, 2007 Author Report Posted November 23, 2007 now they have to keep it updated, something BC couldnt do with theirs I noticed they added that they are going to try and blow snow tonight. I checked the webcam and yep - they are blowing as of 12/23 at 12:10am Quote
snorovr Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 as of 12/23 at 12:10am Uhhhh merry christmas??? Quote
AtomicSkier Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 There is reason why when I develop websites, I have someone else do the design, but I still know or thing or two about what is right and what is wrong. What's the worst thing wrong with that site? Using flash for the whole entire website, and thus creating their own scroll bar, which isn't linked to a scroll wheel on the mouse. That is simply unacceptable. Worst design site ever in terms of navigation. That site could have EASILY been developed using a static images and a little javascript. Sure would have made for an easier site to navigate. Sorry BB, that site fails hardcore, and I didn't even mention the very similar colors used for backgrounds and fonts. Nothing pops! Quote
method9455 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 There is reason why when I develop websites, I have someone else do the design, but I still know or thing or two about what is right and what is wrong. What's the worst thing wrong with that site? Using flash for the whole entire website, and thus creating their own scroll bar, which isn't linked to a scroll wheel on the mouse. That is simply unacceptable. Worst design site ever in terms of navigation. That site could have EASILY been developed using a static images and a little javascript. Sure would have made for an easier site to navigate. Sorry BB, that site fails hardcore, and I didn't even mention the very similar colors used for backgrounds and fonts. Nothing pops! I agree with you on the scroll bar. I noticed load time the 2nd time I opened it was totally acceptable. I have to disagree with you on the design. You want contrast for your eStore, you want style & feel for a site like this. Its not like it is UNreadable, and there isn't all that much you want to read. Basically it is a list of features up, a list of events that barely changes, and a one paragraph update that changes. So you are talking 200 words you want to read? It just has the right feel though, and its about the pictures and video. My only comment would be to switch the team and the video so the team part is at the bottom if it is empty right now. Quote
snownskateguy Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) flash ftl... in my opinion any site thats all flash is garbage.. try css and javascript, works wonders. content moving in the right direction tho, with park feature report and vids and pics. good stuff Edited November 23, 2007 by snownskateguy Quote
Justo8484 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 flash ftl... in my opinion any site thats all flash is garbage.. try css and javascript, works wonders. content moving in the right direction tho, with park feature report and vids and pics. good stuff just curious, why do you say flash is garbage? while boulder's site definitely could have (and probably should have) been done primarily with css, since there's nothing really dynamic animation wise, flash certainly has its uses as well. when used correctly, there's not really a downside to it. Quote
Glenn Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) No flash on the iPhone. Who cares. You don't like the site anyways. Besides, it's a mobile device, you have to know you aren't getting the whole internet going into it. P.S. I had a better flame, but I can't spell so I backed it off. P.S.S The site is down. Edited November 24, 2007 by Glenn Quote
method9455 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 Yea I mean do you really need the park report on the iphone? And if so just check the regular conditions report it is nice contrast black on white. I would say it is the best site out of our area's mountains. Quote
Justo8484 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 No flash on the iPhone. yet... Quote
AtomicSkier Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 Who cares. You don't like the site anyways. Besides, it's a mobile device, you have to know you aren't getting the whole internet going into it. P.S. I had a better flame, but I can't spell so I backed it off. P.S.S The site is down. Besides flash, I see exactly on my iphone as what I do on my laptop. No WAP browser here check this out glenn: http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/index.html#safari and yes justin, not yet o btw, someone must be watching...the scrolling now works with the scroll wheel Quote
librider Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 o btw, someone must be watching...the scrolling now works with the scroll wheel Worked last night.. Now it doesnt. Quote
snownskateguy Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 just curious, why do you say flash is garbage? while boulder's site definitely could have (and probably should have) been done primarily with css, since there's nothing really dynamic animation wise, flash certainly has its uses as well. when used correctly, there's not really a downside to it. all-flash sites are garbage.. not all flash in general, it certainly is a wonderful asset when used well and within reason. while it is being used more widely now and most people who are online a lot will have a flash plugin installed, for those who dont, any website that you cannot view without installing flash is a pain in the butt for accessibility in older browsers/older computers. or if you are using someone elses computer and can't install flash. and while you and i may have fast connections, not everyone does and flash sucks for dialup. i also dislike (read abhor) navigation on all-flash sites. you cant set bookmarks to different pages. BB site "solves' that by using all one page with anchor-type links, or you can just scroll down. this is probably better because you dont have to click several times to find the 'page' you want, such as if i want to check the features report before heading up. but i dont like having everything on one page, and especially with the amount of content BB already has, its a big no-no. a css site would/should have different pages and i could set a bookmark/shortcut right to the page. also, and i think this is possible so it was just overlooked, but like someone else said, things like the scrollbar not being linked to a scroll function just piss me offf. yeah so those are my main complaints. i'm not hating on BB because they definitely put effort into it and its better than, say, anything blue will probably ever have, its just my opinion that they could have done better. Quote
Glenn Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 all-flash sites are garbage.. I disagree, especially in regard to the navigation/links issue. If you want to provide what is essentially a multi-media presentation you want EVERY visitor to have the same experience. You want splash pages and the user to actively interact to get to various content. If you are selling a product perhaps this is not the best, but when the product IS the website it's a different story. I still haven't seen the site so I don't know how this site stacks up. Quote
swdorsey Posted November 25, 2007 Report Posted November 25, 2007 i wish it was more like sno's website Quote
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